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Jesse Ventura on What to Do Before the Grim Reaper Comes Knocking

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posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:07 PM
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On this week’s Off the Grid, I sound off about how Medicare will start paying doctors to provide patients with advance care planning. This type of planning is designed for patients to lay out their dying wishes with family members and other health care professionals long before the grim reaper comes knocking.

How prepared will you be when that fateful day comes? Let me know if you like the idea of advance care planning.




posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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isnt that what we call a will ? and planning with family?

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Confused by this as an "Off The Grid" post



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: JesseVentura

I agree Jesse, it is our choice. Not the government or the Religious right. There is nothing wrong with discussing this with your doctor and letting them know your dying wish.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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Sorry Jessie, some of us do have data caps and can't watch your propaganda. Maybe if you could put your thoughts into text like everyone else here at ATS(and respond once and a while too) you might gain a little more respect, not that you care about that sort of thing.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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when does the 'off the grid' contract run out?
i'm sick of seeing his stupid videos.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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edit on 24-7-2015 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
when does the 'off the grid' contract run out?
i'm sick of seeing his stupid videos.


I use the subversive tactic of, "not clicking on it"


(post by Rikku removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: Rikku

This will get flagged for off topic, but I damn near pissed myself at that post LOL



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
a reply to: AshFan
good for you assfan



Typo? Really?



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: JesseVentura

Not sure what the issue is here, I have been responsible for making sure that the choices my family who have left before me had their wishes granted.

It has for as far as I've know been something that families do discuss openly with a clear plan on who the individual's MPO (medical Power of Attorney) is who will follow the orders to the best of their ability to do so.

Some people are living in fear that if they write out an order for their wishes that it signs a death warrant, this couldn't be any further from the truth. It simply clarifies and puts into writing what the person chooses for their end life care and quality of life in end time scenarios.

The choice is an individual one from last breath to planning their cremation verses funeral and that can be a mess I can assure you if it is not clearly stated by the individual prior to their death.

It is a no issue but people can be idiots and the lines of honor and dignity as well as legalities have to be weighed in.

Dying intestate is one thing, dying with dignity and honor another but they both call emotions among family and friends that in time would not be so explosive and opinionated if the individual has a plan to follow in writing.

One tip for good measure: invest in Long term care...


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posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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It is good to see that there is still some common sense coming out of government.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

A good discussion topic imo, for those not familiar with how close families do things I can see how it could be construed as an encroachment on their personal lives. To be forced to sit down with your family Physician and to make out an end life plan is scary for most that fear death enough as it is.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
a reply to: reldra
i was about to delete it, then some asshole like you quotes it.



Wow, offensive much? Like they said, don't like, don't click!

On topic, I agree, I thought a will was the thing. Or is it about the timing of such? Too soon?



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
isnt that what we call a will ? and planning with family?

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Confused by this as an "Off The Grid" post


No, a 'living will' or will is different. Some people don't have these or if they do, family may not know where they are. The family member may also confuse family members or be confused by suggestions at a new hospital a patient goes to and their primary car dr is not available.

My mother was told over 7 years ago that she had less than 6 months to live. At one point, I was at the hospital with her, I am the oldest of 2 children (by 12 years). It was so bad, the hospital wanted me to sign papers that would end 'keeping her alive via just a ventilator and feeding tube if she was brain dead'. I knew she wanted that. The paper also stated that they "WOULD revive her, if need be with a defibrillator and /or a tracheotomy". I was fine with that. I described it over the phone to my brother , 2 states away. He had a fit, called the hospital and told them to not allow me to sign it. He did not understand that the paperwork was NOT 'do not recussitate' in legal terms.

If her GP were answering and she had communicated this to him, there would be no issue. I believe she has a living will, as she is an attorney, but her SO cound not find it.

This is one reason. There has been a lot of illness and death in my family in the last 10 years, I think the dr being more involved or be able to produce a conversation at least, would help.
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posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: antar
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

A good discussion topic imo, for those not familiar with how close families do things I can see how it could be construed as an encroachment on their personal lives. To be forced to sit down with your family Physician and to make out an end life plan is scary for most that fear death enough as it is.


It says doctors are paid for their time to do this, but not forced. If I sit down with my DR to talk about anything, he is paid for the time.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
when does the 'off the grid' contract run out?
i'm sick of seeing his stupid videos.


Then don't watch them. There is an abundance of information on this website. Don't click on things that don't interest you.



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:13 PM
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edit on 24-7-2015 by notmyrealname because: I'm out too much word bending here for me



posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: bananashooter
Sorry Jessie, some of us do have data caps and can't watch your propaganda. Maybe if you could put your thoughts into text like everyone else here at ATS(and respond once and a while too) you might gain a little more respect, not that you care about that sort of thing.


Very few people, in this day and age, have data caps on watching videos on regular internet. If you don't have that, you should use your data in ways that are important to you. He posts videos, just like NLBS. He also notes a website, maybe there is text information there.

Lots of members post videos in threads day in and day out.
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