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posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: beezzer
Why are we supporting any candidate that only appeals to one half of the country?

Why is it, that any candidate is only concerned with winning just 51% of the vote?

I'm coming at this as a partisan son-of-a-bitch who was so wrapped up into winning, that I missed it.

Where are the candidates that appeal to 90% of the population?

Are we that divided as a nation that we can never agree anymore?

I know, Obama said, "Get over it, we won."

Well, are you or any of us going to "get over it"? Coming from the past 7 years of Obama, I'd say, no. Just more division..

More separation.

No unity.

No peace.


It would be very difficult to have a mixed ticket. I see your point. But I will not accept people who are against equal rights, want to peek into my bedroom, and start multiple wars we can't pay for. There are a few more issues, but I will not move on those.


So you refuse to compromise?

yet you'd demand compromise from me, wouldn't you?




posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

99% vs 1% = half???



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: ugmold

I love Bernie, I just don't think he is exciting enough.

I realize it should only be about politics, but Obama was exciting to the democratic voters in a way that I don't think Bernie can match.

In my opinion Someone would have to win the Obama supporters to pose any threat to the status quo.

And yes I realize Obama's policies have not helped those who he motivated to the polls. One only needs to acknowledge he maintains the same economic policies that were handed to him to realize he is in it for the 1%.

Bernie is a true democratic socialist, but I don't think he is exciting enough to get the politically ignorant millennials and lower income voters to the polls the way Obama did.
edit on 22-7-2015 by Isurrender73 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Is that a serious question?

Regardless, it doesn't matter. Conservatives would never run with a Democratic Socialist, anyone who tried would be labeled a traitor before the presser was over.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:36 PM
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For the mixed ticket it won't be a major party flunkie who does it, obviously.

Someone like Sanders who has name recognition, but realistically has little chance of nomination, might be possible.

On the GOP side, someone like, only as an example, Ben Carson would be another. Some name recognition, but little chance against the machines.

A Sanders/Carson ticket would be fascinating, and I think would do well, as it would appeal across a very wide spectrum of voters... In a dream world, anyway.

Can't help but ponder it though. I like both men, they've got some good ideas, and some not so good. But the good seems to balance out the bad enough that I could happily get behind a ticket like that.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Carson is horrible, gotta be someone else.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Is that a serious question?


Yes.


Regardless, it doesn't matter. Conservatives would never run with a Democratic Socialist, anyone who tried would be labeled a traitor before the presser was over.



And probably get 80% of the vote. Or do we let the press dictate whom we like now?



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: seagull

I think a Sanders/Carson ticket would be ideal.

It'd appeal to practically everyone.

It would require compromise on everyone's part.

And it would lock out Jeb and Hillary.

Unless people want Jeb and Hillary. . . . .



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I don't think so. There'd be wailing in the in the streets for the death of Conservatism.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: beezzer

99% vs 1% = half???


Don't understand, is this new maths?



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

As an example.

But, for that sort of ticket to have even a remote chance to work, it has to cross vast spectrums of the political scene.

No denying that Sanders/Carson would achieve that.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

I don't think so. There'd be wailing in the in the streets for the death of Conservatism.


Conservatism, AND liberalism needs to die.

Unity might be a better way to go.

Unless you want division?



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Not lock 'em out maybe, but it'd panic 'em.

...and panicky people do stupid, stupid things, and say stupid things. Although, a Clinton in panic mode might not be too safe to be around... Bush, too, come to think on it.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: beezzer

Not lock 'em out maybe, but it'd panic 'em.

...and panicky people do stupid, stupid things, and say stupid things. Although, a Clinton in panic mode might not be too safe to be around... Bush, too, come to think on it.


F### 'em!

They aren't in it to unify or to heal the country.

they and a dozen others are just in it to make money, screw people, and destroy the country.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:47 PM
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A vote for Burnie is a vote for sweeping change !!






posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

That's funny considering the source. Maybe stop answering the questions you directly ask people, with accusations? But to answer, honestly I don't know. It used to interest me greatly to discuss things with Conservatives and there's still a small few that I do... but the bead I get the past six or so years and more intensely the past two... I don't think it's possible. This goes beyond ATS, just FYI... but I've not seen many that I would actually like to unite with. Hateful, hurtful and absurd just doesn't appeal to me. Sorry. I swing back, that's just my nature. I would like to be able to change my mind though.
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posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

That's funny considering the source. Maybe stop answering the questions you directly ask people, with accusations? But to answer, honestly I don't know. It used to interest me greatly to discuss things with Conservatives and there's still a small few that I do... but the bead I get the past six or so years and more intensely the past two... I don't think it's possible. This goes beyond ATS, just FYI... but I've not seen many that I would actually like to unite with. Hateful, hurtful and absurd just doesn't appeal to me. Sorry. I swing back, that's just my nature. I would like to be able to change to mind though.


That's the same way I feel about you lot.

But sometimes, the sh!t has got to stop. Since no-one else is doing it, I'll be that guy. I'm used to getting crap from you lot, getting from conservatives won't hurt me all that much.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Let's be honest Beezzer. Let's pretend for a moment that you and I are the embodiment of the entire voter base. There is zero we could compromise on. That is where we are as a nation. It's time for a divorce.



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Let's be honest Beezzer. Let's pretend for a moment that you and I are the embodiment of the entire voter base. There is zero we could compromise on. That is where we are as a nation. It's time for a divorce.


And that's it.

In a nutshell.

Sides have been drawn. No peace can be had. Death and total defeat are the only acceptable terms.

I was hoping one brave lib would step forward.

Alas.

This is a perfect example of our country, you realize that don't you?

See ya on the battlefield, toots!



posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Is that a serious question?

Regardless, it doesn't matter. Conservatives would never run with a Democratic Socialist, anyone who tried would be labeled a traitor before the presser was over.


You could just as easily flip that statement you know.



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