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Was she pulled over because she was black?
At 13:10 a female African American officer shows up and has to help him cuff her.
at 9:20 is his request for her to extinguish her cigarette.
Unless I heard wrong, she was threatened with arrest because she refused to get out of the car. Pennsylvania v Mimms says that I can legally order anyone who is pulled over for a traffic violation to step out of the car. There's no requirement to have probable cause, or reasonable suspicion, or any specific reason whatsoever, beyond the original reason for the stop. If I tell somebody to get out of the car and they refuse, that's grounds for an arrest.
That being said, it looks to me like he took it to the next level (ordering her out of the car) because she didn't do what he told her to do and put the cigarette out. If that's the case, I'm not really on board with it. If you've got the ticket, warning, whatever already written, get her to sign it and go on. It's not worth turning a simple traffic stop into a major ordeal just because somebody wouldn't put a cigarette out.
This Trooper will be crucified . Its just not worth doing all this cause she had a cigarette and your about to hand her a warning ticket.
I am not saying he caused this but he will be painted as a racist trooper who dragged her out of her car for contempt of Cop and caused her to kill herself. People will scream that she was not a threat to him and the uncaring cops and jail deputies "killed" her.
Dude, issue the f****n warning and move on. It's NOT WORTH IT. Prepare for the next # storm over THIS????? Our jobs aren't hard enough these days already....we're yankin females out of vehicles cause our ego got hurt cause she wouldn't tremble and put out the stupid cigarette????? Let's pose this question- suppose she had stepped out when he asked her to....THEN WHAT??? You were gonna scold her about the cigarette??? What was his plan?? What was going to be the purpose of pulling her out?
My opinion probably won't be popular on here but oh well. I'm as PRO-US Pro Police as anyone but I can recognize when we're being dumb. This was dumb. Even tho the death/suicide wasn't his fault-- The public perception and backlash is NOT worth it.
As a 20-year Army vet and former corrections officer, I can tell you that I have been in a lot of stressful confrontations. Never would I have conducted myself this way. That's not how you get results, unless that's exactly the results you're looking for.
originally posted by: DrakeINFERNO
a reply to: Boadicea
Live, dead, makes no matter, is that your job title too?
she dindo nuffins though
She caused this entire situation by acting like an animal.
Heck she could have filled charges against the officer if she felt the need.
Keep being ignorant and beating the racist evil, cop drum.
It was Sandra who escalated this.
originally posted by: raymundoko
The officer didn't cuff or subdue the driver until after the female officer arrived. You can clearly hear him requesting backup again to get assistance cuffing her, and the female officer helps him cuff her. See my post above with time stamps.
To any normal sane person it is clear who escalated the issue.
Trooper Brian Encinia, has been put on administrative leave after a preliminary investigation found he violated the Texas Department of Public Safety’s traffic stop and courtesy procedures during the stop, which was for an improper lane change.
“Regardless of the situation, the DPS state trooper has an obligation to exhibit professionalism and be courteous,” DPS Director Steve McCraw told the Washington Post. “That did not happen in this situation.”
After watching the dashcam video, Texas State Senator Royce West said at a press conference that it’s clear she never should have been arrested.
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: windword
I am going to wager your own lying eyes and ears. To any normal sane person it is clear who escalated the issue.