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originally posted by: notmyrealname
There is a lot of chatter here on ATS regarding comments made regarding Senator McCain (America's longest serving Senator) regarding whether he is a war hero or not due to his more than 5 year detention under the Viet Cong. I personally do not believe in the currently portrayed opinion that being captured automatically 'earns' anyone the designation of 'War Hero' and decided to take at look at other threads to see what ATS has to say about it. After looking around I am even more firm in my opinion on the matter and would like to hear any comments that would lead me to change my opinion (and no, repeating the same thing over and over will not get me to change my opinion).
Here are some of the relevant threads on Senator McCain war related matters:
John McCain Killed 167 US Navy sailors?
Obama hits McCain's military credentials via Proxy
This thread never went anywhere in 2008 however it still stands to be debunked in any way:
McCain and the POW Cover-up
This thread definitely has a Pro McCain is a hero slant to it:
McCain was not tortured, PoW guard claims
I will be flamed by some and may actually draw the ire of those that will seek to make me angry; so be it. I personally do not believe the current trend in the US which seems to want to make every player in the game a 'winner' regardless of whether they won or not. I do not agree that losing is something to be ashamed of however it is not something to be proud of. If ATS has other opinions on these things, let them fly:
"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war,"
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: notmyrealname
I, personally, do not agree with Trumps characterization of McCain. McCain is a nut, but his service to his country should not be questioned.
Now that being said, many have slandered McCain's service, especially when he ran for president.
The same people who *gasp* at the thought of Trump saying anything were the same people who insulted McCain in '08.
Many in the media AND HERE also slam, insult us vets on a regular basis.
They aren't banned, those in the media aren't ridiculed.
So why is it all of a sudden, a terrible thing for Trump to say?
originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: notmyrealname
He was beaten and tortured and lived in tiny cages among other places so small that he could hardly sit....day, months, years...being poked by animals and some tortured ways I wont describe here...and was shot down and crashed....and never gave up or gave in.
And you did what during Nam? Iraq? Kuwait? Afghanistan? I see....
originally posted by: notmyrealname
a reply to: reldra
I respect your opinion and would like to see your views after you read this:
www.theamericanconservative.com...
Remember this is coming from a conservative venue….