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# Is it possible for Nothing to exist, even as a concept?

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posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 04:40 PM
a reply to: windword

Well now your equating 0, with nothing. 0 obviously exist, but if there was nothing would there still be a 0?

posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 04:59 PM
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

Nothing, no thing, is always a mathematical proposition.

Zero: A philosophical history of an Indian Idea

edit on 22-7-2015 by windword because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 23 2015 @ 04:30 AM
Interesting.
The concept of 'Nothing' would be impossible. There is always 'something'. Imagine an enclosed cube, 1m Square. You can remove everything from this cube. Light, all electromagnetic waves, all particles-total vacuum. You could argue that the box you have created contains nothing or that the internal volume is now composed of 'nothing'.
You have removed everything physical from this space but it still has distance, you can measure its volume and distance from edge to edge, time would also still exist within. Gravity and magnetism would still exist as forces that can act through this nothingness...........So there is still something!

True nothingness would have to be the absence of everything including time and measurable distances.
We create our world around us and define everything by measurement, so, true nothingness would be immeasurable by its very definition! So, how would you be able to say that there is 'nothing'? You cant measure it? There is no scale by which you can say, "yup, thats good, now we have nothing"

My opinion based on the above, you cant have 'Nothing', it cant exist. Even as a concept.

This discussion is bringing 'nothing' into existence just by talking about it.

'Nothing' has now become 'something'
edit on 23/7/2015 by waveydavey because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 23 2015 @ 05:53 AM
As I previously said, on a quantum level everything, even matter is energy and vibration, which is ''something''.

There are levels of context, for example there is generalisation on an everyday conversational level and there is quantum physics level. It depends on the level of exactitude.

The concept of ''nothing'' exists because it is conceptual, it has defined boundaries, like the concept of ''zero'', it exists because it is defined, it has boundaries.

It is the description of ''no thing'', the thing being the quantifiable part of the equation, for example ''is there something blocking the road?'' ''there is nothing blocking the road'' it doesn't mean on a quantum level; there is dust on the road that might be blocking a tiny creature but as a contextual generalisation there isn't anything blocking the road therefore there is ''nothing'' blocking the road.

Hence ''nothing'' exists as a concept.

posted on Jul, 25 2015 @ 09:51 PM
Nothing and empty space are not the same things.

God created from himself and not from nothing.

nothing is a concept but not necessarily a reality.

I have yet to find nothingness.

To have no thing does not show that there is a reality of nothingness.

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