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NEW VIDEO: Another Planned Parenthood Doctor Haggling Price Of Baby Body Parts

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posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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Here is how PP actually profits from baby body parts through a legal loophole'...from an ex-Planned Parenthood insider:


Planned Parenthood defector says loophole lets clinics profit from fetal organ sales




Based on her experience, Ms. Johnson says she saw nothing in the video to indicate that Planned Parenthood is breaking the law. At the same time, she said the video exposes a loophole that gives clinics and processing companies enormous latitude in setting reimbursement charges for fetal hearts, lungs and other organs.

“The law currently states that there can be moneys exchanged as long as they fit under certain categories like preservation, collection, storage, transport, etc.,” Ms. Johnson said. “And the law says there is not a maximum amount that can be charged or a minimum amount but that costs cannot be prohibitive. And that’s very subjective.”

(Corrected paragraph
Ms. Johnson does not support the use of fetal-tissue for research.

“They [clinics] could say, ‘Well, it’s more difficult for me to harvest a brain than it is for me to harvest a kidney, so that collection fee is going to be $1,000 for a brain, whereas it’s only going to be $400 for a kidney,’” Ms. Johnson said. “And the problem is that it’s so subjective, the amount of money that can be charged. That’s really where we need reform.”


Ms. Johnson left PP after she witnessed an abortion under ultrasound (She doesn't specify whether or not it was a "Less Crunchy" procedure).
This part was particularly horrible:
"“I was shocked at what I saw,” she said. “I had been told by Planned Parenthood that the unborn had no sensory development until 28 weeks gestation, and so to see a 13-week fetus trying to actively move away from the abortion instrument during that procedure was very shocking."



In her experience, Ms. Johnson said the older the gestational age of the fetus, the easier it is to pick out organs.

“At my affiliate, we did abortions at the time up until 16 weeks. You can begin harvesting fetal tissue at approximately eight weeks,” Ms. Johnson said. “Organs are present earlier, but you can’t really decipher them until about 12 weeks. That’s not all of the organs, but some of the larger ones, you can pick those out and say, ‘OK, this is a liver.’ And that’s usually around 12 weeks.”

Ms. Johnson’s story is well known in pro-life circles. She had received a regional Employee of the Year award from Planned Parenthood shortly before she quit in 2009 after a doctor showed her an abortion procedure on an ultrasound.

“I was shocked at what I saw,” she said. “I had been told by Planned Parenthood that the unborn had no sensory development until 28 weeks gestation, and so to see a 13-week fetus trying to actively move away from the abortion instrument during that procedure was very shocking.

“It really caused me to [ask], ‘What else have I been misled about through this organization?’” said Ms. Johnson, who recounts her experience in “Unplanned” (Tyndale Momentum), which was released in paperback in December.



www.washingtontimes.com...
edit on 21-7-2015 by IAMTAT because: highlighting


This affirms that selling butchered baby body parts is a for-profit business. Is there any doubt that PP would encourage more abortions, with it's profit motive?
Your Lamborghini is ready, Doctor.
edit on 21-7-2015 by IAMTAT because: comment added




posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:20 PM
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So I watched the video and again, pure lies that PP is doing anything for profit. The PP exec explicitly states they aren't looking to profit. Watch the whole video...

Just out of curiosity wasn't the first video 8:24 also? Is that code for something? lol



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
Is this video similar to the previous video released, in that it is highly edited and butchered to leave out any context whatsoever?

It's from the same right-wing think tank, so I would bet that it is. Also, Breitbart is a propaganda outlet. Won't give them the web clicks if I cna help it.


Hmmm did we watch the same video, because in the one that I watched that was over 2 hours long she did INDEED talk about how they harvested baby parts and what parts those were.....infact the 2 hour long video was even more damning then the edited one......

I dont think you watched it at all, or at least youre betting a majority didnt, because if you had, you couldnt say it was edited to make her say anything....

that or your lying.........

This is yet AGAIN another case of the same thing happening.........

So tell me , after 2 cases so far, im sure its just all coincidence or a hoax right?

Despite the fact that Planned Parenthood came out and apologized?

Your defense of this is dispicable
edit on 7/21/2015 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I saw the video. She didn't haggle over the price of baby parts and in fact she specifically said they are not making a profit at all. Maybe it would be better if these parts wound up in the trash rather than go to advance scientific research? I really didn't see the kind of uproar we have here when it was discovered Israelis routinely absconded with body parts from fallen Palestinians, coming the battle field for the dead and dying and removing their organs. It was a bit of an embarrassment and then the story went away. Got a feeling this will not go away until abortions are made illegal and young girls in the south are forced to have their daddies babies, and call them sisters.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yes they do harvest for donation to medical research. Not for profit. Same BS in this video. Also they apologized for the tone (clinical) not the action. Any apology wasn't necessary.
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posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yes they do harvest for donation to medical research. Not for profit. Same BS in this video.


If youre selling them, thats not donations..........



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

They aren't selling them, the 30-100 dollars (was it?) is for storage, shipping, lab use.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

They aren't selling them, the 30-100 dollars (was it?) is for storage, shipping, lab use.


Uhuh......then why arent the recipients paying for that , if its just a donation?



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:41 PM
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all I see is more excuses for another despicable act.........

Its monsterous



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The actors were acting as a third party, a go between PP and whatever research facility they are donating to. Medical researchers would pay the third party, third party would pay PP. PP pays for everything up front, it's a reimbursement.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

All I see is massive cognitive dissonance and condoning misinformation and lies because it's Planned Parenthood. It is entirely possible to say: "I hate Planned Parenthood. The claim of wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood is a lie."



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I was referring to the first video released that was edited and pieced together. I did not watch the 2 hour video, nor did I watch this most recent video. That is why I asked if this video was similar to the last.



So tell me , after 2 cases so far, im sure its just all coincidence or a hoax right?


It appears to me, without having watched the most recent video, that Planned Parenthood has been caught on tape discussing the process in which the fetus' and "parts" are handled for research purposes. Also, it seems that they are not "selling" parts for profit, but recouping costs involved with that process.



Despite the fact that Planned Parenthood came out and apologized?


Perhaps you could provide a link to that apology. I've read their response and it did not appear to be an apology, but instead a clarification.



Your defense of this is dispicable


Considering that I am not religious, nor politically-motivated to take a particular position, I side with personal freedom.

I do not like abortion. I think it's disgusting, just like homosexual intercourse, but I have no right to stop people from doing what they feel is right in their particular situations.

Who am I to stop gays from getting married if they want to? I don't give a damn. It doesn't affect me.

Who am I to stop a woman from aborting a fetus if they want/need to? I don't give a damn. I'm not her doctor and it doesn't affect me.

I know that sounds barbaric, but so be it. Too many people claim to uphold the constitution and believe in individual liberty and responsibility, but do all they can to dictate what they can or cannot do based on their own interpretation of what is right or wrong.

So by all means call me despicable. I can accept that.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Are you for or against murder?

Not the abortion type, just simple stab a stranger in the throat, type murder.

If it happened in a city far from you, would you be for the person committing the crime?



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Apples and oranges.

Not falling in to that trap, thank you.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: beezzer

Apples and oranges.

Not falling in to that trap, thank you.


Just curious



(post by Freenrgy2 removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:49 PM
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That's right, because only some people should be able to murder, or rather, decide who it's "okay" to murder and who isn't. Did I mention how chilling it is that you assign that power to yourselves?

Abortions are not going to stop, despite the fantasies that some of you have about dictating, or rather, having the State dictate that women must use their bodies to serve the State's interest.

You guys wouldn't have a problem with this if Planned Parenthood just threw the tissue away then? Burned it?

Because if so, all the hysterics are just so much theatre. You consider the bodies of "the babies" no more than trash.

And if not, all the hysterics are just hypocrisy. You don't care a wit for the tissue, you just hate it that you can't dictate to women what they are going to do. You don't want to provide birth control measures, you don't want to promote better sex education, the only thing you will accept is State control over women's bodies.

If you believe that abortion is murder, unless you're a-okay with murder as some of you have indicated, don't have an abortion.

You can't say that you're in favor of State-mandated servitude for women to be forced to serve as incubators for the children you will only see as Welfare leeches once they get here and claim to be such great believers in less government and individual freedoms incessantly.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Freenrgy2

How is it that you know that only liberals are pro-choice? I know pro-choice libertarians and even a few conservatives (who are true believers in individual freedoms rather than merely paying the idea lip service).

How do you know that no liberals are pro-life? I know several myself.

Is the whole issue of Planned Parenthood and abortion merely political for you? Your political agenda provides your talking points?



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: OpenMindedRealist

Actually the issue is simple. Is abortion always murder?

That's not shifting the argument at all.

Also, whether or not abortion is or isn't murder, the fact is that it happens in this country, every day, legally, and will continue to do so. Are you also saying you think that "the babies" are mere trash, and should be thrown away or burned instead of having their tissues serve at least some good purpose?



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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And here come the defenders of the babyparts vendors!

Our society is seriously screwed up when we defend things like this, and condemn people who dare to say All Lives Matter......

We deserve any amount of destruction we have comming




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