The many ways WW3 can actually start.

Who the fk cares about economy it is digital stock market now, we lived in the pass without an economy and still survive. Economy going down will not be the cause of WW3. Reason WW2 was create because people invade each other that started with the French and Axis. So don't you ever look at it as a way of WW3. Economy down means trade maybe cut down for awhile. We got internet now. If internet is down for a long time, you'll know.

1. North Korea and South Korea going at it, might create WW3 unless the two nations US and China decides to back down. Russia will obviously won't be involved until one of them start pulling a nuke.

2. India is in the BRICS so I doubt it will cause WW3. Stance is Neutral. Possible cause will be False Flag attacks and excuse to help Indians by the West. Any attack from each superpower will divert support of India. West attacks India she will side with East. East attacks India she will side with West. Neutral is Neutral.

3. US invading or attacking China/Russia and the other way around. There are people in US who really wants to invade China and Russia. Same can be said about Russia. The ones who never traveled to other places to be exact.

4. Huge False Flag attacks on superpower countries.

5. US invasion of Iran. Do I need to explain anymore?

6. Corporate Military. This is kind of being prevented so far since 2001 Iraq war. Do I have to say Mercs again? Corporations attempting to create another military and invade other countries to takeover for resource and control. This is Capitalism with weapons in effect. Don't play by the rules get invaded without rules. West to be more specific. Unlike them Dictator or Communist controlled countries.

You'll know when a Corporation/Company has taken over when you have less to no soldiers vs private contractors in your country.

Example: en.wikipedia.org...

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Biggest False flag will be sending Black Waters to Russia and China. This is US building a 2nd army.

7. Civil World War. All the super powers have civil war with each other allowing other countries to invade. Nukes will still be used as long as the bad people gets their hands on them.

8. China invades Japan. Only country preventing that from happening is US and just so as long Japan doesn't piss off their Asian neighbors especially China by possibly throwing a nuke in secrecy. I very doubt US will support Japan if they decides to invade China or Russia again.

9. Russia or US invades any European countries with full force in an attempt to conquer.

Any dictator or Imperialism rising countries from Europe causing a war will not cause a world war again(Examples: Napolean, Hitler). Happen once, happen twice. US, NATO, BRICS will stop it from happening.

Scenario of China invading full force is highly unlikely unless it was attacked by full force. The amount of Tourists China gets and relations between other countries. I doubt China is on any conquering mode unless it was a large war.

3. US invading or attacking China/Russia and the other way around. There are people in US who really wants to invade China and Russia. Same can be said about Russia. The ones who never traveled to other places to be exact.

The US continuing it's imperialistic march across the globe seems to be the most logical potential cause for WW3, in my opinion.

A large portion of the US population has become xenophobic, war-mongering McCarthyists that would rather bomb everyone and everything in sight, rather than be diplomatic and learn to accept that other nations and their people are sovereign.

originally posted by: introvert

3. US invading or attacking China/Russia and the other way around. There are people in US who really wants to invade China and Russia. Same can be said about Russia. The ones who never traveled to other places to be exact.

The US continuing it's imperialistic march across the globe seems to be the most logical potential cause for WW3, in my opinion.

A large portion of the US population has become xenophobic, war-mongering McCarthyists that would rather bomb everyone and everything in sight, rather than be diplomatic and learn to accept that other nations and their people are sovereign.

Also a scenario of Americans not watching who is truly in power. Gov? People? or Corporations? America is a complete mess right now. Even the CIA had became its own military. What happened to America where Soldiers were the only military?

a reply to: makemap

Also a scenario of Americans not watching who is truly in power. Gov? People? or Corporations? America is a complete mess right now. Even the CIA had became its own military. What happened to America where Soldiers were the only military?

That's a complicated question.

The reason the US has employed many private armies and used it's intelligence agencies as muscle is because private armies are not subject to the same governing laws and regulations as those of nation states, and the CIA can do as they wish and can deny anything and everything because we allow our government to act secretly with no accountability.

Add to that the corporate profit motive and you have the war machine we see today.

Can add "Rogue terrorist organization launches dirty bomb from within (country of choice) and x amount of fallout and nuclear weaponizing insue" to the list.

How would North Korea for instance tell the U.S. That it did not launch a missle when said missiles heat signature was detected by spy satellite xyz inside N.K. borders?

especially after all the weapons brandishing (testing) N.K. had done in the past few years.

Oh and technically we would be talking about WW4.
We have been well into WW3 since we declared war against those poor paki's to steal their oil, I mean to find their weapons of mass distruction. Also to bring democracy to their land by which we kill their people create the terrorists that didn't exist, then train them to protect themselves against invaders like us (no pun intended) and call it isis. And pretend it isnt a WW3. I figure WW3 is coming up on its 15th birthday pretty soon.

and to think all we had to do is figure out how to melt steel beams with jet fuel.

While a world war is out of the question simply because their are not two global sides a large scale regional war could be kicked off a few war, these being the most possible.

South China Sea - China has forbid any nation from sending warships into this area. To which the US immediately sent warships into the area. Followed by China saying it meant that no other nation but, the US could send warships into the area. Others that have, have been harassed and sometimes attacked by China in particular Vietnam and the Philippines. With the creation of the US/Japan/India Trilateral these three countries have agreed to not only support each other against China but, have also extended that support to Vietnam and the Philippines. While China would not likely target the US/India/Japan directly it might decide to test how firm they would be to Chinese move wiping out all Philippine and Vietnam forces in the South China sea. Bound by treaty the US would likely respond and India and Japan along with. clearing Chinese forces from the South China sea and likely declaring a demilitarized zone until the UN could settle things. However the response by China could escalate things if it refused talks a took additional military action. Suddenly you could have 3 nuclear powers in a conflict. Unlikely but, possible.

India/China-Pakistan - Chinese forces violate India's territory on pretty regular basis always a potential for a clash. Now ad to that the tension between China's dear friend Pakistan and India. And China being very unhappy with India joining with Japan and the US backing the other Pacific states against it. A border clash could escalate and China might see a chance to humiliate India a state it sees as a growing rival. If China could get Pakistan to throw off US influence and join it in teaching India a lesson things could get harry with 3 nuclear powers going at it. This would also be a test by China to see how serious Japan and the US are about their new close defense ties with India. With no paper treaty and only an understanding to help each other would the US and Japan get involved? If so 4 nuclear powers would be clashing and if they did not and India were to face defeat the might go nuclear. Again, this is unlikely. China and India are more likely to limit any clash between them to the sea. And Pakistan is unlikely to throw away US aid and march into a possible nuclear war.

Russia/NATO-EU - A Russia move like they have pulled in Georgia or Ukraine in a NATO state is possible but very unlikely as it would drag NATO in and NATOs new quick response force would quickly bring it to an end. Russia could try the same in Finland but, again unlikely while Finland is not NATO they now have agreement allowing NATO to deploy forces in its defense. Now a more plausible scenario is Ukraine decides to expel Russia from the East. As the conflict in east Ukraine has gone on only small portion of Ukraine's forces have been sent in, to avoid bringing in more Russian troops. However Ukraine's forces are now being trained by the West and if the West decided to arm them Ukraine could decide they have the upper hand on the Russian's who not performed very well in Ukraine. Sending a large mobile force east would crush the Russians drive them back to Russia. How Russia would respond to that is unknown but, it could get ugly and bring in NATO if Russian called out the reserves went full on against Ukraine. Even more scary would be an emboldened Ukraine grabbing a piece of Russia at the border to trade for Crimea. That would be sure to escalate things. Again these are all unlikely. The West has resisting arming Ukraine for that very reason.

Isn't there already a thread on this...oh...yeah...there is...

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originally posted by: makemap


Who the fk cares about economy it is digital stock market now, we lived in the pass without an economy and still survive. Economy going down will not be the cause of WW3. Reason WW2 was create because people invade each other that started with the French and Axis. So don't you ever look at it as a way of WW3. Economy down means trade maybe cut down for awhile. We got internet now. If internet is down for a long time, you'll know.

WWII started because Europe thought appeasement would work. They are making the same mistake with Russia invading Ukraine.

originally posted by: makemap
1. North Korea and South Korea going at it, might create WW3 unless the two nations US and China decides to back down. Russia will obviously won't be involved until one of them start pulling a nuke.

Contrary to popular belief the Korean war never ended. It only resulted in a cease fire. The 2 sides technically remain at war and if war should break out the UN command and UN authorization for use of force is still in effect. 16 nations (last I checked) were and still are obligated to assist S. Korea.

As much as China supports N. Korea their nuke program has started to piss China off like no other.

originally posted by: makemap
2. India is in the BRICS so I doubt it will cause WW3. Stance is Neutral. Possible cause will be False Flag attacks and excuse to help Indians by the West. Any attack from each superpower will divert support of India. West attacks India she will side with East. East attacks India she will side with West. Neutral is Neutral.

BRICS is NOT a military alliance. Secondly India and Pakistan have been exchanging fire in Kashmir with some escalation recently while both sides blame the other. There is a very real possibility of an outbreak between the 2. A war between India and Pakistan will drag China and the US in.

originally posted by: makemap
3. US invading or attacking China/Russia and the other way around. There are people in US who really wants to invade China and Russia. Same can be said about Russia. The ones who never traveled to other places to be exact.

Source for this? I have not seen anyone advocate an attack on China nor Russia let alone an invasion. The US has no desire to invade China nor Russia as we know an occupation would be impossible.

originally posted by: makemap
4. Huge False Flag attacks on superpower countries.

A possibility however if the false flag involved a wmd I would think a response would be contingent on verifiable information.

originally posted by: makemap
5. US invasion of Iran. Do I need to explain anymore?

Yes because the Us has no plans to invade Iran. Our plans revolve around striking their nuke program in addition to reacting should Iran try to shut down the Persian Gulf. Again trying to occupy a country like Iran would be as bad as trying to do the same in Russia and China.

originally posted by: makemap
6. Corporate Military. This is kind of being prevented so far since 2001 Iraq war. Do I have to say Mercs again? Corporations attempting to create another military and invade other countries to takeover for resource and control. This is Capitalism with weapons in effect. Don't play by the rules get invaded without rules. West to be more specific. Unlike them Dictator or Communist controlled countries.

Like what Russia has been doing former SSR's who bolted from Russia and want nothing to do with them today?

originally posted by: makemap
You'll know when a Corporation/Company has taken over when you have less to no soldiers vs private contractors in your country.

Groups that are covered under the Rules of War and how they are to be treated = actual enemy forces

originally posted by: makemap
7. Civil World War. All the super powers have civil war with each other allowing other countries to invade. Nukes will still be used as long as the bad people gets their hands on them.

A civil war is internal and not external.

originally posted by: makemap
8. China invades Japan. Only country preventing that from happening is US and just so as long Japan doesn't piss off their Asian neighbors especially China by possibly throwing a nuke in secrecy. I very doubt US will support Japan if they decides to invade China or Russia again.

China does not have the ability to project force in this manner. Its one of the main reasons Taiwan has not been invaded. Secondly an attack on Japan would result in a US response.

originally posted by: makemap
9. Russia or US invades any European countries with full force in an attempt to conquer.

I see Russia fitting this bill than the US.

originally posted by: makemap
Any dictator or Imperialism rising countries from Europe causing a war will not cause a world war again(Examples: Napolean, Hitler). Happen once, happen twice. US, NATO, BRICS will stop it from happening.

Part of NATOs existence was to allow countries in the alliance to deal with each other diplomatically instead of settling this militarily. Its kept the peace between Turkey and Greece for some time now. BRICS is not a military alliance.

originally posted by: makemap
Scenario of China invading full force is highly unlikely unless it was attacked by full force. The amount of Tourists China gets and relations between other countries. I doubt China is on any conquering mode unless it was a large war.

With Russia trying to identify as a Eurasian country China and Russia are going to bump heads. China is the top dog in that region and I doubt they are going to give that up to Russia anytime soon. There is a reason China and Russia fell out of favor with each other and those issues still have not been resolved.


I think a war in the middle east between Israel / Saudi Arabia and Iran and Syria is where it will start. It will drag in Europe and the US and it will spread from there.

My opinion anyways...

originally posted by: introvert

3. US invading or attacking China/Russia and the other way around. There are people in US who really wants to invade China and Russia. Same can be said about Russia. The ones who never traveled to other places to be exact.

The US continuing it's imperialistic march across the globe seems to be the most logical potential cause for WW3, in my opinion.

A large portion of the US population has become xenophobic, war-mongering McCarthyists that would rather bomb everyone and everything in sight, rather than be diplomatic and learn to accept that other nations and their people are sovereign.

Yes,brainwashed into blind obedience who are not critical on their countries wrong doings globally but critical on giving aid and food to the poor in their country :-/

Straight away we have misleading or flat out lies in the replies here.

Let's have a few corrections for clarity

1-unless we are talking about Russia invading Georgia nearly a hundred years ago there has not been an invasion by Russia recently

Georgia started to do its own ethnic cleansing to the east of its country when it shelled towns and Russia did it's duty to those in need by sending it's armed forces in and pushing the Georgian army back and quickly in 5 days they crippled the Georgian war machine

2-Russia has not invaded Ukraine,sure there are Russian troops there in small numbers but they have ties to Ukraine who up to recently was Russian

It's just laughable that members here think Ukraine could actualy win in a fight against Russia and even claim some Russian territory!

Look at the facts

Ukraine army is broken and can't even fight the rebels to the east how on earth do you think they could beat the Russian armed forces?

Russia knows Ukraine is a trap designed to pull their forces into and bleed them dry both financially and with troop casualties.They would easily win the war but could spend a decade there being targeted by the west leaning freedom fighters supplied with modern weapons

As for how how the next world war may start,who knows but we will all know how it ends

a reply to: makemap

I don't think there will be another world war for a long time, if ever. Invasion and colonization happen by stealth these days, it is corporations we should worry about more than armies, being VERY serious.

The only possibility I see where things could get out of hand is if for some reason the U.S goes down the shoot and creates a power vacuum. Poor little Israel on that day. It will be little Britain and Israel left to fend for themselves with the snarling hounds encircling them waiting to pounce.

originally posted by: AlongCamePaul
Can add "Rogue terrorist organization launches dirty bomb from within (country of choice) and x amount of fallout and nuclear weaponizing insue" to the list.

How would North Korea for instance tell the U.S. That it did not launch a missle when said missiles heat signature was detected by spy satellite xyz inside N.K. borders?

especially after all the weapons brandishing (testing) N.K. had done in the past few years.

Oh and technically we would be talking about WW4.
We have been well into WW3 since we declared war against those poor paki's to steal their oil, I mean to find their weapons of mass distruction. Also to bring democracy to their land by which we kill their people create the terrorists that didn't exist, then train them to protect themselves against invaders like us (no pun intended) and call it isis. And pretend it isnt a WW3. I figure WW3 is coming up on its 15th birthday pretty soon.

and to think all we had to do is figure out how to melt steel beams with jet fuel.

That happened for the Iraq War. It is considered as "false flag" to get other countries to intervene. Sadly America fell for it. NK isn't a terrorist organization, it is country totally different. Terrorist is one who terrorizes a country with possible WMD. Terrorists don't have a country or a complete controlled nation. Some people may call American terrorists today. But, the majority has no idea who is in control and don't support random wars. Terrorist is a person, not a country. For example if a corporation decides to terrorize a nation it would be called "Corporate Terrorism".

Countries going at each other is obviously propaganda or war. Calling NK a Terrorist organization is like calling Soviet Union a terrorist organization. It is just like America making propaganda threats about China. US called China bad, NK calls US bad. NK is a dictatorship country.

a reply to: makemap

You've slightly missed my point.
Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. What was meant to be said is a terrorist organization operating inside a country basically framing that country by launching a missile and starting a war.

Xcathdra is right. There is no movement in the US to invade anyone. China makes all our stuff (including now producing lots of our food) and Putin is seen as a bombastic nut, lots of talk but no real threat (to the US I mean, not Ukraine).

imho the most likely scenario for WWIII is an Islamic attack on Israel, which could receive (combat) assistance from the US. This could provoke mass terrorist attacks on the US. If a WMD is used (Iran nuke?) *somebody* over there is going to pay dearly.
such war would be intercontinental but I don't see Russia / China / EU involved. Not sure if said war would escalate. The muslim world might unite in anti-US jihad (those that aren't already) but I still don't see major players. (scenario; China takes advantage of US being busy to assert itself in the SC Sea? Maybe take some islands? Hmm.)

How does the Israel scenario get left out of such a discussion?

If a full blown nuclear and/or chemical war started between Israel and any Islamic nation, and Israel did well, Russia would pounce like a tiger.

originally posted by: AlongCamePaul
a reply to: makemap

You've slightly missed my point.
Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. What was meant to be said is a terrorist organization operating inside a country basically framing that country by launching a missile and starting a war.

Too bad you can't edit your post after 7 hours in this forum. Anyways, like the Sony hacking about "The Interview" movie saying they were North Koreans? It doesn't have to be inside the country, it could be else where. Smart terrorists wouldn't stay at a place that would get invaded or lock downed. Just like 9/11. Terrorist attacks are on the false flag list, those who just want to drag other countries into wars.

I would edit False flag attacks to include terrorists, if I could.. With satellites and Internet these days, they don't have to be operating inside a country, could be somewhere far like in Iceland hacking all the way to Japan.

originally posted by: r0xor
How does the Israel scenario get left out of such a discussion?

If a full blown nuclear and/or chemical war started between Israel and any Islamic nation, and Israel did well, Russia would pounce like a tiger.

On who?? Puz:

originally posted by: r0xor
How does the Israel scenario get left out of such a discussion?

If a full blown nuclear and/or chemical war started between Israel and any Islamic nation, and Israel did well, Russia would pounce like a tiger.

Who would Russia pounce on? Russia has good ties with Israel and no reason to attack a random Islamic state. Not to mention Russia is blocked from getting to the region by several nations.

Its coming

a reply to: arimass101

Thanks for your insightful post - indeed it is only a bit more than 3 1/2 months until Christmas!!

Well if WWIII is going to occur, it will be before Obama leaves office. The next President will most likely not be as feckless as Obama. There is real concern that Obama will not militarily support our allies and I think that viewpoint is accurate based on the time he has been in office.

Do it now while Obama is in office with knowledge he Is still waiting on the spine donor or run the risk of a US President who might actually do something.