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The "Deep Web" The Internet Of Freedom

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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: JustKoz
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I use Tor for a long time. I have a diffrent laptop with a "special" operating system. I also do not pay for the internet.


I'm not really sure what this thread is all about, it's not like this subject matter is lost on the ATS community. I don't know, sounds like you want to say something that will inevitably violate ATS T&C which leaves you with a few slides that are by and large an insult to the readerships cognitive skills.
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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: JustKoz
depends what protection you have

There's no protection against a government agency subpoenaing ISP access logs. There's no VPN or IP-masking network that will obfuscate what your ISP knows about what you're doing. And ISP's are required to keep the logs for two years.

Exactly. There's only one way to surf the "deep web" anonymously. Don't try it at home kids.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

I am not violating anything. Me putting this post up is just giving people the idea that this exists. You know not everyone knows about it. There is also new users on ATS. Just thought people would like to know. Thanks everyone for the support. Thought ATS was about that. Getting and sharing info. If you dont like my idea of this just tell me man.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

U learn something everyday what u know

Thanks too , i will be trying and researching other ways to stay anonymous



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:03 PM
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I agree. Tor was once a great tool. But so many of the relays are now operated by the government themselves...they have enough nodes in their control.

Your ISP and the government will know you are going to Tor.
That being said, there are 100 more silk road type websites operating there still. They seem to be getting some type of free pass for the time being, because they are not being stopped. The operators themselves are stealing all the money and taking off all the time of course but that is different..
Who knows. Honestly as far as most people know Silk Road was shut down and that was the end of that stuff. Perhaps the government simply does not care enough to do it more often..



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: lightedhype

That's honestly some good thinking. But you guys really think it would be that easy to track down a person in a day?
It took them a really long time to get to DPR



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:04 PM
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so from everything i read can you tell me what are the advantages of using tor? if they can still see us whats the point?



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: JustKoz
a reply to: Rosinitiate

I am not violating anything. Me putting this post up is just giving people the idea that this exists. You know not everyone knows about it. There is also new users on ATS. Just thought people would like to know. Thanks everyone for the support. Thought ATS was about that. Getting and sharing info. If you dont like my idea of this just tell me man.


Oh I got no problem with the topic. But this is ATS after all, we don't want to hear about an orange. We want to hear about how an orange was abducted by pineapples and their core cored out without a drop of juice.

What are some uses for DeepWeb (legal ones)?

Can you site a story where information on the deepweb was used for ......something cool?

For created TOR? Now there's an interesting conspiracy thread idea. Nudge, nudge.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
Perhaps the government simply does not care enough to do it more often..


Well, they did have to prosecute their own agent for theft after the Silk Road fiasco. Perhaps they're afraid more of that publicity/temptation will hurt their rep? LoL



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
I agree. Tor was once a great tool. But so many of the relays are now operated by the government themselves...they have enough nodes in their control.

They seem to be getting some type of free pass for the time being, because they are not being stopped.


I smell a Honey Pot!



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: devaur

Of course. I know for some people it can be not safe. But i really think its still a whole ocean of new info that it offers , and what i think it is worth it. There is too much stuff on there and , they are probably trying to take them down , and wont have time for a single user of TOR that read some info with other 300 people. When there is rapists and killers posting services on TOR. FREE NET I2P an others.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:08 PM
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What do you guys think of I2P Anonymous?
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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

Ok , so what i am trying to let u guys know about TOR just the concept of it , the dangers , people on there , all the info that is on there. Come on , what you think?



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: JustKoz
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

With all respect , The VPN masks youre ip to another one to anohter one , it can be endless. With the help of tor , you can always run


maybe ten years ago



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: JustKoz
a reply to: devaur

I know for some people it can be not safe. But i really think its still a whole ocean of new info that it offers , and what i think it is worth it. There is too much stuff on there and , they are probably trying to take them down , and wont have time for a single user of TOR that read some info with other 300 people. When there is rapists and killers posting services on TOR.


Uh huh, all fun and games until the NSA shoots your dog.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:12 PM
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well call me ignorant but that still makes it sound like the black or was it dark web thingy?



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

People are diffrent you know , not everyone is the same as you. People like to know stuff. No matter what.
And please stop scaring people , first of it is their choice



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

I for example will still explore "Deep Web"
Do whatever you want



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: devaur

Check it youre self



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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thats not a real answer, now try giving a real one. i havent looked too far yet but are there hidden grimoires and lost info?
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