Ashley Madison, infamous infidelity website, target of data hack

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Lust and a lack of morality.

New found love.

Promiscuity.

Immaturity.

Revenge on a partner who previously cheated.

Someone who cheats because they've been cheated on by others.

There's 6 right off the top of my head...




But no, surely it's all the other persons fault isn't it...

I remember the word "culpability" being used. Barf.

My guess is that some pissed-off hacker found out their spouse went on this site.

a reply to: Isurrender73

My mom does get help and has been doing so for over 20 years. It is not as easy for some as it is for others.

I wish her well. I do understand how it plays with a persons self worth, and the constant wondering of what could have been done differently in the relationship. She has to forgive herself as well, because sometimes people who have been cheated on, internalize it, and secretly blame themselves.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs


Here is a question for you...
What makes you think cheaters are going to be honest when asked why they cheated?

I'll take that question.

The researchers made sure they didn't have their fingers crossed when they answered the questions.

Really.

Why is this so hard for some to understand!

Researchers are cutting corners now, it seems.

Previously, questions that relied on truthful answers were prefaced with "I triple dog dare you to answer truthfully". It yielded a consistent truth rate of 99.8 percent.

Triple dog dares were subsequently banned in the 90's when someone from the White House Press Corps tried to use it in an interview.

I was not aware of that fact. It could be a source of trouble as rumor has it that Trump will be using it if he is allowed into the debates nearer election time.

Anyway, I suspect many who lie quite often get lost in a state of mind where lies and truth are freely interchanged in their reality. Hard to believe anything said.

"Never trust anything you read on the internet."

-Abraham Loncoln

Wow, Honest Abe really said that?

He seems to be trustworthy enough. I believe it.

I like it.
The Internet term is 'Seems legit to me' , I think.

I have to agree it is wrong of the hackers to do this.

I don't want to be cheated on as much as the next guy, but that part is up to me.

I agree cheating is wrong, and it is immoral.

But that doesn't excuse people getting out'd by some hackers.

Wow, never have seen so many wishing to shut down free expression before.

It's like this site made confederate flags, or spoke badly about progressives!

originally posted by: Isurrender73

Why have any laws? Are not all laws supposed to written based on a Moral Code?

Not all laws are based on morality. Many are based on inherent rights of the individual.

You are more concerned with privacy over morality.

When privacy is the law and morality is not you bet your sweet ass I am more concerned about privacy.

Not the privacy one SHOULD have in thier own home, but the legalized profiting off of immorality in a public domain.

You are probably one of those people who are uptight about legal prostitution as well. Stay out of Nevada, your prudish head may explode.

I don't want to take my kids to the mall and have them see a booth for Ashley Madison. But you are ok with profiting off immorality, as long as no one infringers on your privacy, which according to the NSA you don't have anyway.

As long as they are not breaking the law why is it my concern?

Profiting off immorality is wrong and should not be protected by law.

How many more laws you want to pass before your sensitivities are assuaged?

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Just so you know, I agree with you. And I have witnessed more cheating than most.

Cheaters lie to justify their behavior. People always want to point finger at someone else, rather than accept responsibility for their own problems.

Cheaters by nature are likely to find faults in others to justify the unjustifiable. This is how the mind of a cheater/liar works.

originally posted by: beezzer

Wow, never have seen so many wishing to shut down free expression before.

Or refused to bake a gake.

2-3 months ago I un-subscribed from my 'free' membership (@ A. Madison)... I found the site a chamber-pot... to get any correspondence you have to PAY dearly for the intercourse (communications) linkage through their portal...

I have done dozens of those 'free membership' accounts all over the porn relationship sphere of activity... putting forth a pretty hedonistic profile just to see the kind of pseudonym names that came up eager to meet - up with this oral person...

I soon got bored with the traffic

originally posted by: beezzer

"Never trust anything you read on the internet."

-Abraham Loncoln

Is he that guy whose speech, made famous the line, "4 scores and 7 websites ago"?

When governments are using hackers and buying there software to further their own not so ethic agenda I think it shows another face of ethics dwindling in society. The people who need it the most, lack it.

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Just so you know, I agree with you. And I have witnessed more cheating than most.

Cheaters lie to justify their behavior. People always want to point finger at someone else, rather than accept responsibility for their own problems.

Cheaters by nature are likely to find faults in others to justify the unjustifiable. This is how the mind of a cheater/liar works.

So do children, when they have been caught red-handed. Should we jail them? Also, I'm sure neither you or I have ever tried to "justify the unjustifiable" somewhere in our lives. Lets not be hypocritical.

Oh, Geeez....so soon we're all going to be treated MORE pictures of Anthony's Weiner..er, i mean Anthony Weiner.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Lust and a lack of morality.

New found love.

Promiscuity.

Immaturity.

Revenge on a partner who previously cheated.

Someone who cheats because they've been cheated on by others.

There's 6 right off the top of my head...




But no, surely it's all the other persons fault isn't it...

I remember the word "culpability" being used. Barf.

Ahhhh. Therein lies the issue, I think. You falsely believe that those who cheated are trying remove responsibility from themselves and lay the entirety of blame on the other party when this isn't the case.

Sure, a good number of them blame their partners for why they cheat. It's natural to want justify your own actions. It happens. But I betcha a good number of them also lay blame on themselves. I know I was partially to blame for my almost infidelity. Rather than approach my partner and try to communicate and work out WHY he was being so distant and inattentive, it was easier at the time for me to validate my self-worth with another. I imagine this is the case for most cheaters. Rather than risk conflict and possible shouting matches, sometimes it's just easier to get your physical needs met with another person who's more willing than to try and fix a failing relationship.

To me, I'll never truly understand cheaters. If your relationship is so bad that you want to sleep with someone else, break it off with your current partner. Sure, breakups suck. But you save yourself a lot of heartache in the long run.

In my case, I broke up with my partner with the INTENTION of sleeping with the other guy. But after the breakup, I began to feel better about myself without the need for another person to validate me, so I never did anything with him.

Will there be people who try to lay blame squarely on the shoulders of the person they cheated on? You bet! People have historically had a hard time taking blame for their own actions.

But there are also those who can level with themselves and say honestly "Yes, I cheated, and you know what, I'm kind of to blame too." You see, cheating is a two way street. I think study you take issue with because you believe the study is trying justify why they cheat, rather than just gather information. The study isn't trying to justify cheaters. It's simply listing possible reasons FOR cheating. There are some people who are just incapable of being monogamous, and there are some who will cheat, and immediately become riddled with soulcrushing guilt. Cheaters are wide and varied. However, MANY of the cheaters cheat because they feel their current relationship or partner lacks something, which is all the study reports.

It does open up an interesting question of just exactly what legal rights a civil contract gives a partner ... or a pre-nup. If my partner signed a pre-nup that included a fidelity clause and this hack exposed him or her ... could I sue both he/she AND the website?

originally posted by: ketsuko
It does open up an interesting question of just exactly what legal rights a civil contract gives a partner ... or a pre-nup. If my partner signed a pre-nup that included a fidelity clause and this hack exposed him or her ... could I sue both he/she AND the website?

Good question. The website probably would not be liable...A he/she partner is probably exempt, due to Kaitlyn Jenner and current political correctness.

Seriously: Your partner: Definitely in breach of contract.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Oh, and the world "Culpability" "Culpable" or any variation thereof doesn't appear in the article.

originally posted by: ketsuko
It does open up an interesting question of just exactly what legal rights a civil contract gives a partner ... or a pre-nup. If my partner signed a pre-nup that included a fidelity clause and this hack exposed him or her ... could I sue both he/she AND the website?

There is precedent for suing a third party, but not the vehicle they used to connect from what I've read. Suing the vehicle opens a whole new can of worms.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You can blame another person for how you are feeling (spouse treating you badly, toddler behaving badly), but you can only blame you and you alone for your actions (cheating on the spouse, beating the toddler).

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


A relationship is a two person affair. If one partner is, say, emotionally unfulfilling or becomes asexual then the other partner will look to fill those needs elsewhere. There are typically two people to blame when relationships devolve to this point except in the case of serial cheaters.

Don't buy this argument at all. If things are so horrible with a spouse that withholds love and sex, and they have no interest in trying to improve things, then end the marriage. There is no honor in cheating - ever.

Are you so dense that you'd overlook staying with a cheating spouse for the moolah & good life livin'? Hell, if my dad had not wanted to marry his Shanghai mistress, and had retained his 6-figure globe-trotting job, you bet your arse my mom would have stayed married to him -- she SAID AS MUCH. At the point of his affair, they were pretty much over each other as spouses, but she was still really fond of his money. He was fond of his housewife taking care of everything domestic at home. They were pretty much just disinterested friends with occasional benefits at that point. My bet is a lot of, if not the majority of, these cheating spouses on AM are in the same boat, and thus your outrage isn't going to mean diddly to them.