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originally posted by: LostAndFound2
It isn't even debatable if Chemtrail program exists
Anyone spending time looking up will see clear difference between fast dissipating contrails and haze/cloud seeding Chemtrails
But reading ATS I would swear on my grandpas grave that Chemtrail folks are all lunatics who live underground in sewers and have mental issues
That's how oiled and organised Debunking is
originally posted by: Robert Reynolds
I don't think we need to worry about the rise of the 'bozos' just yet. It's a non-issue outside of internet discussion and I'm sure you could make a more valuable contribution to society if you really wanted to.
You'd be wasting your time and indulging yourself if you were to discuss the existence of Unicorns - it would serve no purpose. Have you studied logic? How would prove that Unicorns don't exist?
You sound like a very easily influenced person.
How many vapour trails have you personally tested?.
Without knowing the purpose of the supposed chemtrails how could a possible economic viability even be discussed?
We'd need to know the desired effect before discussing motivation.
That's a very broad statement.
No, I've never studied logic, I wouldn't waste my time. Nice cut 'n' paste job of somebody else's words though. Could you prove the non-existence of Unicorns now?
originally posted by: SyxPak
a reply to: LostAndFound2
Well Oiled indeed! But like any Machine, it will break down... Their oil is thin and cheap...Worthless...
One question for debunkers.:
If the hot air in an engine makes that 'contrail',(Plus dirt particles, etc...), are You seriously saying that air stays that hot all freakin day? (The air around it would make that hot air cool down to it's natural surroundings, thus a contrail dissapates soon after creation...) Or maybe that hot air is Magic?
Contrails are line-shaped clouds or “condensation trails,” composed of ice particles, that are visible behind jet aircraft engines, typically at cruise altitudes in the upper atmosphere1. Contrails have been a normal effect of jet aviation since its earliest days. Depending on the temperature and the amount of moisture in the air at the aircraft altitude, contrails
evaporate quickly (if the humidity is low) or persist and grow (if the humidity is high). Jet engine exhaust provides only a small portion of the water that forms ice in persistent contrails. Persistent contrails are mainly composed of water naturally present along the aircraft flight path.
originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Robert Reynolds
for people claiming :
" its in the fuel "
there is one killer comeback :
as the fuel is filtered - the alledged " chemtrail " agent must be either a liquid - or soluble in kerosene .
please name a compound of barium , strontium , aluminium etc etc [ the common alledged " chemtrail " elements ] that is either a liquid at room temperature or disolves in kerosene
amazingly - i have not had an answer yet
PS - any aqueous solution has the problem that the max permited water content of fuel is so low that a stable solution would not deliver any useable payload of alledged " chemtrail agent "
so - the " its in the fuel " argument falls apart instantly
next claim ?
originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: LostAndFound2
Like others I was on the fence about the whole Chemtrail debate until I came to ATS and someone suggested that I download a Flight Radar App which will show live data. I did just that and I can turn on the app and point it at any suspicious aircraft to find out all the data I needed. This made me aware that the aircraft were just normal civilian aircraft that created persistent contrails and I was able to sleep better at night
However..... that all being said we do have an issue with aircraft contrails that has been completely overshadowed by the Chemtrail Theory is that these persistent contrails do block out sunlight and could be a cause of Vitamin D deficiency and other health issues. Perhaps we need to put as much effort into these issues from Aircraft Contrails has on our health as we do discussing the Chemtrail Theory.....
Vapour trails caused by jet aircraft over Britain can cause clouds covering 20,000 square miles, according to Met Office research, reducing sunshine by up to 10 per cent.
Jet contrails above Britain can block sunshine over 20,000 square miles
Vitamin D has been shown to improve a number of brain disorders, including dementia and its most severe form, Alzheimer’s disease,1 the latter of which now affects an estimated 5.2 million Americans.2
Link Between Vitamin D Deficiency and Dementia Confirmed
One question for debunkers.: If the hot air in an engine makes that 'contrail',(Plus dirt particles, etc...), are You seriously saying that air stays that hot all freakin day? (The air around it would make that hot air cool down to it's natural surroundings, thus a contrail dissapates soon after creation...) Or maybe that hot air is Magic?
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Robert Reynolds
And if he can't come across it -- then it must be real?
Sorry, but that logic isn't very sound if I can turn it back around like that