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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: crazyewok
You have a higher opinion of people than I do, my friend.
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Aryameher
You havnet been on this site long have you?
You really don't know me or my stance as you are attacking the wrong person here. I'm likely one of the most Anti Iran war on here and I personal don't think they have nukes as if they wanted them they would have got them a decade ago.
originally posted by: Dragoon01
Israel will get a vote in any exchange.
This is what the Arab and Persian on the street seems to forget. They eat their leaders rhetoric just like everyone else and think there is a viable chance of destroying Israel.
The Iranian leaders know this and what they are seeking nukes for is to get a seat at the big boy table.
They just need to know that once you sit at that table the rules change.
There is no more of this state sponsored terrorism against 1st rate powers.
Any disagreement has the potential to go literally nuclear. There are no conventional options to fight against a 1st world power if you have nukes.
They see this as a path to 1st world status and in truth it is, however that path does not allow you to go on a full jihad across the arab world scarfing up all of the non nuclear countries. It will not mean a free hand to attack Israel. It will mean that Israel will just openly declare its Nuclear arsenal and they are WAY ahead of the game.
It will mean that you can no longer blame Israel and the US for the social problems in your country and you can no longer use that blame as a foundation for covert terror attacks.
I dont think Iran has really thought through what they are getting themselves into.
Any further attack on Israel will see Israel turn your cities into glass.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Aryameher
What in the hell are you smoking and where can I get some? How am I a warmonger? I'm not for war, nor have I encouraged it, nor said anything positive about it. The reason the major world powers lose wars with less technologically advanced nations is because they're restricted in what they can do, due to giving a damn abnout civilian casualties.
Nukes take those concerns off the table. At that point ground troops don't matter as the less advanced nation gets carpet bombed into the stone. In modern warfare likely with drones and no soldiers lost. There would be no concern for preserving the nation lobbing nukes around like it's a toy, they would be put down quickly because dammit nukes being lobbed is effing scarey. NO ONE WANTS MUTUAL ANNIHILATION!
It has nothing to do with thinking greatly of the US, which is in my opinion a corrupt corporate owned two faced monstrosity. It also has nothing to do with the kind of war you're talking about.
originally posted by: Marcus069
Would this then make them the envy of the muslim world? Would even the Sunnis rejoice at this event?
originally posted by: Strewth
a reply to: Marcus069
Chemical weapons would leave all the infrastructure in place. Nuking the joint renders it uninhabitable and in such a confined part of the world and hotly contested real estate it would go down as the dumbest move ever in the history of military and government decisions.
There would undoubtedly be dancing in the streets in many parts of the world though just like after the 911 event.
originally posted by: ketsuko
There's a reason it's supposed to be called the "Samson Option" in Israel. It's supposed to allude to the story of Samson for a reason. In that story, Samson was returned his great strength just long enough to destroy all his captors but only at the cost of his own life. So basically, Israel is saying, "If you ever see us use this, it's because we don't expect to survive, but we're going to do our best to take all of you with us."
So at that point, they don't care what the rest of the world thinks anymore. They're done and they know it, but so will everyone else.