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Another murdering muslim terror attack! Will obama call it work place violence again?

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posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: beezzer

No, whether it happens on home soil is what determines if it's DT...

Not motive, not who, not when, not rainbows and gumdrops...

Just where!

Home...
Domestic...

Abroad...
Overseas...

It's quite simple Beezzer.


If German spies committed bombings or shootings during WWII on US or even British soil, it would not be considered "domestic terrorism".




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

What country did we declare war on?





Well the U.S. and some others are bombing ISIS like crazy aren't they?




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Wouldn't whether or not he wanted to impact *domestic* policy come into play...like taxes, immigration or abortion?

Versus say international or foreign state policies in the ME or more generally for Islam or Jihad?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Under the redefining of the "domestic terrorism within the patriot act it will fall as such.


Title VIII: Terrorism criminal law[edit]

Main article: Patriot Act, Title VIII

Title VIII alters the definitions of terrorism, and establishes or re-defines rules with which to deal with it. It redefined the term "domestic terrorism" to broadly include mass destruction as well as assassination or kidnapping as a terrorist activity.
[ex/]

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:23 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
I think motive has much bearing in determining whether it should be classified "domestic terrorism" or not.



True, if you mean it is jumping the gun to yet call it terrorism because we have no idea why he did this.
Terrorism is normally religious or idealogical in nature.
edit on 16-7-2015 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: beezzer

No, whether it happens on home soil is what determines if it's DT...

Not motive, not who, not when, not rainbows and gumdrops...

Just where!

Home...
Domestic...

Abroad...
Overseas...

It's quite simple Beezzer.


If German spies committed bombings or shootings during WWII on US or even British soil, it would not be considered "domestic terrorism".


Yes it is to those whose land it happens on.


Here let me clear it up for you...

9/11 - Domestic
Benghazi - Overseas

It's really not complicated.
Or important.
Or pertinent.

It's terrorism...
Be all and end all.

Sadly he's dead and won't be able to answer whether it was planned abroad or not.

I'm sure the big government agencies will fill us in on that.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: reldra

ISIS tweets “Chattanooga” as gunman begins shooting there; 4 murdered

Take it or leave it.

You don't *really* know do you.



Calculated Terrorism !!!




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: kosmicjack


Noun 1. domestic terrorism - terrorism practiced in your own country against your own people; "the 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City was an instance of domestic terrorism"


www.thefreedictionary.com...

If he aligned himself with jihadist extremism, then he isn't recognizing the US or the American people as his country or his countrymen.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Was Pearl Harbor "domestic terrorism"?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: reldra

ISIS tweets “Chattanooga” as gunman begins shooting there; 4 murdered

Take it or leave it.

You don't *really* know do you.



Calculated Terrorism !!!





He tweeted it long after...
I spent a long while debunking that Pamela Geller BS in the original thread.

She doesn't understand time zones.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: reldra

ISIS tweets “Chattanooga” as gunman begins shooting there; 4 murdered

Take it or leave it.

You don't *really* know do you.



Calculated Terrorism !!!



FOX has apologized about HOAX Tweet



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Are you being funny?

Was it even labelled terrorism in the 40s???


If not, then that's clearly a red herring.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: beezzer

Are you being funny?

Was it even labelled terrorism in the 40s???


If not, then that's clearly a red herring.


I'm just going by your definition. . . . .



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: beezzer


What is a "terrorist activity?"
Under the Patriot Act, terrorist activities include:

• threatening, conspiring or attempting to hijack airplanes, boats, buses or other vehicles.

• threatening, conspiring or attempting to commit acts of violence on any "protected" persons, such as government officials

• any crime committed with "the use of any weapon or dangerous device," when the intent of the crime is determined to be the endangerment of public safety or substantial property damage rather than for "mere personal monetary gain


Domestic terrorism redefine.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Was Pearl Harbor "domestic terrorism"?

Was Pearl Harbor committed by Americans?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Well, nowadays it would be DT...


But like I said if it wasn't even labelled plain old terrorism in the 40s it's hardly a relevant comparison.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

No, it was not, as under the patriot act the definition was added and redefined



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Was Pearl Harbor "domestic terrorism"?

Was Pearl Harbor committed by Americans?


Are you insinuating that US citizens weren't complicit?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Beezzer are you playing with the wording of definitions here? do I hint a flavor of ironic sarcasm?




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: beezzer

Beezzer are you playing with the wording of definitions here? do I hint a flavor of ironic sarcasm?



A little.

Basically, if this nutweasel is found to have committed these acts via ISIS, then I'd consider it an act of war and not "domestic terrorism".



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