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Another murdering muslim terror attack! Will obama call it work place violence again?

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posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: aorAki
Chattanooga gunman came from a middle-class Muslim family

You guys should grab your flag (either racist one) , don white sheets and pointy hoods and round up every Muslim in the country and keep them in internment camps. Then America will be great again and reclaim the Christian moral highground it lost after Bush2, when a foreign, Muslim, darkie president took over and ruined everything for everyone.

That's the tone I get from the OP.


I agree because of the use of generalized term "murdering muslim" anyone can look up Christian attacks in other countries and they are numerous there are btw Christian terrorists, that does not reflect all Christians. This is no different than saying a white murderer or Black or Italian, the person who did this and any group he may be working for is responsible alone without adding all of the similar people of the world into the equation.

So Obama says..


“We take all shootings very seriously,” Obama said. “Obviously, when you have an attack on a U.S. military facility, then we have to make sure that we have all the information necessary to make an assessment in terms of how this attack took place, and what further precautions we can take in the future. And as we have more information, we’ll let the public know.”

There have been several previous attacks.

Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad is serving a life sentence in prison for killing one soldier and wounding another outside a recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas, in 2009.

In 2013, former Marine Yonathan Melaku was sentenced to 25 years in prison for firing at several military installations in 2010, including a Marine Corps recruiting station in Chantilly, Virginia, and a Coast Guard recruiting station in Woodbridge, Virginia.

Not all planned attacks are successful. Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif and Walli Mujahidh were arrested in 2011 for allegedly planning attacks on a recruiting station in Seattle. In 2012, Antonio Martinez, who had changed his name to Muhammad Hussain, was sentenced to 25 years in prison for planning an attack on a recruiting station in Catonsville, Maryland

www.militarytimes.com...




posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 11:52 PM
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It's nice that when one muslim kills a bunch of people it's time for a new crusade, but on a daily basis the christian or jewish people that kill people here in the US aren't mentioned as being such and it's just another average day for america.

I'm glad their religions don't get mentioned, people might start thinking there's something wrong with the abrahamic religions in general.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 03:03 AM
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Murdering Muslim terror attack ? What about all those bombs dropped on Vietnam,Iraq,Afghanistan,Pakistan ? Murdering Christian terror attack ?


(post by Aryameher removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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(beezzer looks at the above post and walks away)


(very quickly)



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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I don't want to deflect from another Muslim bashfest, or the overspill onto the usual suspects ... Democrats, liberals, leftists, progressives, etc. etc. ... but since the title of the OP queries what President Obama will say, should we look at what he's actually said both now and in the past?

Remarks by the President at Memorial Service at Fort Hood - November 10, 2009



To the Fort Hood community; to Admiral Mullen; General Casey; General Cone; Secretary McHugh; Secretary Gates; most importantly, to family, friends and members of our Armed Forces. We come together filled with sorrow for the 13 Americans that we have lost; with gratitude for the lives that they led; and with a determination to honor them through the work we carry on.

This is a time of war. Yet these Americans did not die on a foreign field of battle. They were killed here, on American soil, in the heart of this great state and the heart of this great American community. This is the fact that makes the tragedy even more painful, even more incomprehensible.

For those families who have lost a loved one, no words can fill the void that's been left. We knew these men and women as soldiers and caregivers. You knew them as mothers and fathers; sons and daughters; sisters and brothers.


The President Delivers a Statement About the Shooting at Fort Hood -April 02, 2014



We're heartbroken that something like this might have happened again. And I don't want to comment on the facts until I know exactly what has happened, but for now, I would just hope that everybody across the country is keeping the families and the community at Fort Hood in our thoughts and in our prayers. The folks there have sacrificed so much on behalf of our freedom. Many of the people there have been on multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. They serve with valor; they serve with distinction. And when they’re at their home base they need to feel safe. We don't yet know what happened tonight, but obviously that sense of safety has been broken once again. And we're going to have to find out exactly what happened.


Statement by the President on the Shooting in Chattanooga, TN - July 16, 2015




We’ve also been in contact with the Department of Defense to make sure that all our Defense facilities are properly attentive and vigilant as we sort through exactly what happened. And as details of the investigation proceed, we’ll make sure that the FBI, as well as local law enforcement are providing the public with all the information that's involved.

My main message right now is, obviously, the deepest sympathies of the American people to the four Marines that have been killed. It is a heartbreaking circumstance for these individuals who have served our country with great valor to be killed in this fashion.




We take all shootings very seriously. Obviously, when you have an attack on a U.S. military facility, then we have to make sure that we have all the information necessary to make an assessment in terms of how this attack took place, and what further precautions we can take in the future. And as we have more information, we’ll let the public know.

But in the meantime, I’d ask all Americans to pray for the families who are grief-stricken at this point. And I want everybody to understand that we will be thorough and prompt in figuring out exactly what happened.



Now, back to your normally scheduled program of thinly-veiled racism and religious intolerance ... and of course, Obama-bashing.
edit on 10Sat, 18 Jul 2015 10:15:42 -050015p102015766 by Gryphon66 because: Added a date to a link



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

Like I said, before, it will those that will rejoice whenever we get terrorist in our nation killing our own, specially now the targeting of military personnel.




posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 10:33 AM
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"The shooter was just a poor, under educated youth, with no direction because every single system failed him.

He is the real victim."

- Barrack Obama




edit on 18-7-2015 by MoreBeer because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: MoreBeer
"The shooter was just a poor, under educated youth, with no direction because every single system failed him.

He is the real victim."

- Barrack Obama


I can't find that quote. Can you link the source?

If not, I'm pretty sure it's against T&C to post known lies.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: nemonimity
It's nice that when one muslim kills a bunch of people it's time for a new crusade, but on a daily basis the christian or jewish people that kill people here in the US aren't mentioned as being such and it's just another average day for america.

I'm glad their religions don't get mentioned, people might start thinking there's something wrong with the abrahamic religions in general.


Really!
Then list, just for the last seven days, Christian organizations that have murdered non-Christians here in the U.S.!
Provide all of the links as well. You will have Zero, Nill, Ziltch, None, Nooothing!
And that's the reason why they Are Not mentioned, Because they NEVER happened!
Go troll elsewhere.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

There's about what, a billion Muslims? Many of which are also being attacked by Muslum extremists (and the USG/NATO).

The strange Orwellian goal Obama and others seem to have is to not alienate the global Muslim population, especially here in the USA. Kinda hard when you're bombing and invading numerous nations full of Muslims. Kinda hard when you fund Israel's military.

Me thinks, if even 5% of Muslims took part in violence the world would be much worse off. My point, it's not "the Muslim population" facilitating this violence. It's an extreme minority. A minority which was actually radicalized and trained by the west.

Or is it a minority? Is your view of Islam correct? Are there a billion plus people hell bent on destruction? Do you have proof?

We can rightly point to Islamic governments as being backwards, and many issues do in fact manifest from such governments.Even state funding for "terror". Yet again, the west propped up most of these during the Cold War in order to stop "socialism" or Nasserism.

One thing you should worry about, concerning Obama and the USG overall, is what they've been doing to create this issue. Going back 75 years. Heck, 100 years since the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. They have something we want, something we need. Natural resources and a very large potential consumer base. And for that they get "democracy" pushed on them at the tip of a hellfire missile. Or by having their more secular governments overthrown by the west. In favor of Islamic regimes. Or dictators. Or chaos.

The Iraq war was just the latest in a long chain of "intervention" in the Middle East. Going back to the subjective division of the region in the early 20th century. Borders/nations created by the west in order to divide and conquer. Mostly to allocate resources into western markets at a good price.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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History of Shootings at Military Bases in the US



September 2013: Twelve people died and four were injured after a government contractor opened fire inside the Navy Yard complex in Washington, D.C., committing one of the worst attacks at a U.S. military installation since the November 2009 killing of 13 at Fort Hood. Gunman Aaron Alexis, who had just recently begun an assignment at the site, was shot and killed by officers. Authorities later said that Alexis, who appeared to target his victims at random, "held a delusional belief that he was being controlled or influenced by extremely low frequency, or ELF, electromagnetic waves.”

June 2013: An Army captain at Joint Base San Antonio-Fort Sam Houston, Texas was allegedly shot and wounded by her common-law husband, Alvin Roundtree at the Army Medical Department Center and School, where she was an instructor. Roundtree is a retired soldier.

April 2013: Lloyd Gibert, a civilian employer at a Fort Knox, Ky. parking lot, was shot to death outside the post's Army Human Resources Command building. A Fort Knox soldier, Marquinta E. Jacobs, was arrested in the killing.

March 2013: Marine Sgt. Eusebrio Lopez, a tactics instructor, shot and killed two colleagues at Marine Corps Base Quantico’s Officer Candidates School in Quantico, Va. before shooting himself to death. The victims were Lance Corporal Sara Castromata, a warehouse clerk, and Corporal Jacob Wooley, a field radio operator.

December 2012: Spc. Marshall D. Drake, a soldier at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska, shot to death a fellow solder, Pfc. Grant Wise, after a night of heavy drinking. Wise was found dead in Drake's barracks on Christmas morning. Drake was sentenced for 12 years in a military prison.



June 2012: Spc. Ricky Elder killed himself a day after allegedly shooting and killing his battalion commander, Lt. Col. Roy L. Tisdale, during a safety briefing near his unit's headquarters at Fort Bragg, N.C. News reports indicated that Elder faced legal troubles, and had said he'd been diagnosed with dementia.

May 2012: A soldier was shot by a fellow service member after a traffic accident on the grounds of Fort Carson, Colo. The shooting happened after one of the soldiers allegedly lost control of the car he was driving and crashed into the other soldier's home. After a fight, the resident opened fire, hitting the driver twice and himself once.

April 2012: A soldier at Fort Campbell, Ky., Spc. Rico Rawls Jr., allegedly shot and killed his wife, Jessica Rawls, at their home on the Army post, then led police on a highway chase into Georgia. Before his arrest, he shot himself and eventually died.

May 2011: Sgt. Jason Seeds, a soldier at Fort Drum, N.Y., allegedly shot his wife during a dispute at their home on the Army post. She lived, and explained later that her husband had suffered from deteriorating mental health since returning home from war.

October and November, 2010: Marine Corps reservist Yonathan Melaku committed a series of drive-by shootings at various military installations in northern Virginia, none of which resulted in anyone getting hurt. When law enforcement agents arrested him, they found bomb making material with him. Melaku was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

November 2009: Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan carried out the largest mass murder at a military installation in American history, opening fire on dozens of unarmed soldiers at a medical deployment center at Fort Hood, Texas. Thirteen were killed and another 32 were wounded. Hasan was sentenced to death.

July 2009: Army Sgt. Ryan Schlack was shot while trying to break up a fight at Fort Hood, Texas. A fellow soldier, Spc. Armano Baca, is serving 20 years in prison for the murder.

June 2009: Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, a self-described Islamic radical, opened fire on a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Ark., killing one Army private, William Long, and wounding another, Quinton Ezeagwula. Muhammad was sentenced to life in prison.

September 2008: A soldier at Ft. Hood, Texas, shot and killed his lieutenant then committed suicide on the balcony of his apartment.

October 1995: Sgt. William J. Kreutzer Jr. went on a shooting spree at Fort Bragg, N.C., killing one officer and wounding 18 soldiers, members of the 82nd Airborne Division, as they participated in morning physical training exercises. He was sentenced to life in prison.

March 1995: Ernest J. Cooper Jr., a civilian Navy worker, shot and wounded two co-workers at Naval Air Systems Command in Arlington, Va. then killed himself. One of the victims, Nils F. ``Fred'' Salvesen, was Cooper's supervisor and the first to be shot. The other, Navy Cmdr. Harry F. Molyneux, was sitting nearby when Cooper turned the gun on him.
Man Charged for Treating Cancer Patient with 'Baggie of Dirt'

June 1994: Airman Dean Mellberg opened fire at the Fairchild Air Force Base hospital outside Spokane, Wash., killing four people and wounding 23 before a security officer killed him.



From some of these names, I'll just bet there may be Christians and Jews involved. Maybe even a few Buddhists.

Maybe the problem isn't with Islam but with all religions?

Naw ...



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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And my hart also goes for the family members in my family that had died from serving this nation proudly, specially those that I never got to know, before you judge know some facts, see my husband served this nation proudly as a marine until retirement, my father served in Korea, he lost two brothers one in Korea as they were drafted together, a younger one in Vietnam, my mothers father died in world war two and lastly my brother also served in the navy



I was NOT judging your degree of empathy, I was responding to your comment, plain and simple. I believe your heart does indeed go out to all, yet, you did not take the time time to do so (nor are your obliged to do so) throughout all your post in this thread until I pointed out your conflicting thought process. This is why I found your post I responded to very hypocritical....and pointed that out.




Never judge without facts.


I agree. What are your thoughts about Islam?


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posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: network dude
the reason this needs to be classified as terrorism, as it should be, ultimately has to do with the benefits for the affected soldiers. It really does matter, but only to them.


Only to them?
Really?
Really!
Your telling me that classifying this as terrorism only matters to the Military? If your in the gallery of a golf event and a muslim starts spraying everyone with gun fire, that it then Doesn't Matter to call it Terrorism? Or the victims of the Boston bombing were not casualties of Terrorism? Or the families of the woman that was beheaded in Oklahoma because she wouldn't convert to Islam, was not a victim of terrorism? Really? I think your bunnet is too tight!


Woa there thunder! I just meant that how it's classified isn't going to bring anyone back, or make this not have happened, but if done like Ft. Hood, then there will be no purple hearts or the benefits for that honor. If you feel it needs to be called terrorism for another reason, super. No argument.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: Violater1


Really!
Then list, just for the last seven days, Christian organizations that have murdered non-Christians here in the U.S.!
Provide all of the links as well. You will have Zero, Nill, Ziltch, None, Nooothing!
And that's the reason why they Are Not mentioned, Because they NEVER happened!
Go troll elsewhere.


We get it.
Muslims bad. Christians good.
It doesn't seem to matter to you if they're citizens of the USA or not, if they're Muslims they don't belong.
I would suspect that there are Domestic Christian terrorists who are influenced by hate speech purveyors such as the Westboro crowd who have committed murder.

How can you be a defender of the Cross and be so full of hate?



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: aorAki





You guys should grab your flag (either racist one) , don white sheets and pointy hoods and round up every Muslim in the country and keep them in internment camps. Then America will be great again and reclaim the Christian moral highground it lost after Bush2, when a foreign, Muslim, darkie president took over and ruined everything for everyone.


I am gonna point out that the last time US citizens were rounded up due to their nationality it occurred during a president with a D next to his name. So don't try and a play these games.
Now I love how after that kid shot those people in the church it was jumped on so fast it was racism, even before all the evidence was out. But now with similar easy signs of the why's it is wrong to blame muslim extremists? That my friends is politics in action.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: hangedman13

A few facts ...

Muslim isn't a nationality.

President Roosevelt did not act in a vacuum with the reprehensible acts of Japanese American internment.

And IF you do want to play that game, then what letter was beside the names of the Presidents who oversaw the genocide of the Native American Nations?

Why that would be the one after Q and before S.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 11:04 PM
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originally posted by: MoreBeer
"The shooter was just a poor, under educated youth, with no direction because every single system failed him.
He is the real victim."
- Barrack Obama



Source and links please or it is not so.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: aorAki

originally posted by: Violater1


Really!
Then list, just for the last seven days, Christian organizations that have murdered non-Christians here in the U.S.!
Provide all of the links as well. You will have Zero, Nill, Ziltch, None, Nooothing!
And that's the reason why they Are Not mentioned, Because they NEVER happened!
Go troll elsewhere.


We get it.
Muslims bad. Christians good.
It doesn't seem to matter to you if they're citizens of the USA or not, if they're Muslims they don't belong.
I would suspect that there are Domestic Christian terrorists who are influenced by hate speech purveyors such as the Westboro crowd who have committed murder.
How can you be a defender of the Cross and be so full of hate?


In my opinion, You should stop being a hater, raciest, pedophile, murder, rapist and thief.
There, a taste of your own medicine. Just as you have No Facts to back up your empty comments, the above sentence of mine has, as all of your feckless comments, has no truth, proof, or bearing on reality. Now

I'm done with you.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

What organization killed the five marines? Everything I've read lead me to believe it was a guy with a gun. But I'm glad you so eloquently taught me that it's really non christian organizations. People don't kill people, Charters do, and affiliations. Giant abstract groupings and concepts tread this great god given land of ours murdering poor religious people who wan't nothing more than to live in peace with everyone and who will eventually receive the blessing of their patron deity who will ride dragons and smite the non believers.

You really put me in my place next time I see that someone has committed murder I'll know it wasn't a person, it was the organization known as Muslim. Load off my mind I tell you what.




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