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No Longer a Conspiracy Theory- Madonna New Song -Illuminati

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posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: SoulSurfer

No offense but that was a long answer that doesn't provide any answers.

Why do they hire pop stars to throw up hand signs in their videos?

None of what you said addresses that. How does seeing lady gaga cover an eye brainwash anybody? What's the point? That's my question. Why does the illuminati need lady gaga to cover her eye?




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Whether you feel "wise" or not is irrelevant. I AM a songwriter, and i write far better lyrics than these. I can tell you from real experience: there probably IS meaning to the lyrics, but they are personal, and likely nothing like what you imagine.


Im not dismissing it, and you bring out a very good point. And I do agree with you to a certain extent.
However, I don't think in this case it is personal as in only for her. Because she isn't the only artist speaking about the same thing.

Also, the fact that Kanye West Helped her with that song, kinda tells us it is not personal as in "her only" point of view. Because kanye west, the very man who openly admitted in front of thousands of people on stage, that he sold his soul to the devil.

That on it's own speaks volumes.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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Anybody who heard Kanye Goofball sing Bohemian Rhapsody knows if he made some deal he should ask for a refund.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

The theory is that they want people to think they control the system and then hate the system, so that when people bring the system down, they will think the Illuminati are gone, destroyed. The idea is a sort of bait and switch - a look - you killed us, but we never left. We're the new boss, same as the old boss type trick.

This rabbit hole theory goes very deep.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: threeeyesopen

No, September isn't the end. If the theory is correct, it's the beginning of their time to rule.



Why are you being so cryptic? "Their time to rule"

Tell us who and what will be the rulers.....More Biblical interpretation isn't it?

Revelations, eh?


This.

This is wha irritates me when I read threads like this (I know: stop reading them Shammy). It's never a straight answer. It's always some cryptic half sentence crap that boils down to "here's a hint" or "if you open your mind you'll see it" or some such nonsense.

A question deserves an answer. Not some half-baked "I know something you don't know" crap.




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: SoulSurfer

No offense but that was a long answer that doesn't provide any answers.

Why do they hire pop stars to throw up hand signs in their videos?

None of what you said addresses that. How does seeing lady gaga cover an eye brainwash anybody? What's the point? That's my question. Why does the illuminati need lady gaga to cover her eye?



... I provided all the answers that I know in that post. When you understand it fully, you will know. You may want to read it thoroughly because I explained somewhat in detail. Short Vague Answer: It is a conditioning, and mind control tactic, it is also psychological warfare.

As to why they cover their eyes. (This is only an assumption because in reality, I do not know why they cover one eye and expose the other. But i have seen it being done by nearly all celebrities). My guess is to display worship or to signal out who they are allied to; openly-yet obscurely.



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posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:22 AM
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Welp, there you have it. We ought to know better than to come to a conspiracy website and talk about conspiracies… they don't exist. At least according to all the arrogant conspiracy deniers who will call people sluts, gay and generally piss in everyones cheerios….

unless the subject is Russia.

Then Everything, no matter how meaningless is proof Putin did it.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Extremely well said .
I think its all a crock



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I would argue the vast majority of people either a) don't know anything about the illuminati or b) don't buy into it at all.

Putting themselves out there to be "killed off" makes way more sense than doing something like....not revealing themselves to begin with.

I should email them about that.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: intrptr




Welp, there you have it. We ought to know better than to come to a conspiracy website and talk about conspiracies… they don't exist. At least according to all the arrogant conspiracy deniers who will call people sluts, gay and generally piss in everyones cheerios….

unless the subject is Russia.

Then Everything, no matter how meaningless is proof Putin did it.


Awesome! How did you manage to read my thoughts?



Cheers!



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

I would if I could. There isn't much that's straightforward about it. Mostly it's vague.

Some see it as the Biblical thing, yes, and others see it as a more human power play by the Freemasons/Bilderburgers/et. al.

So, which spin do you want me to give it?

If you want me to give it the Biblical spin, then you are aware of the war between God and Satan, yes? Well, Satan is making a power play for earth, always has been. We have been brainwashed into thinking of our devils and demons as ugly, goat hoofed Baphomet-style monsters. Think Tim Curry in Legend for the ultimate example, but scripture warns that Satan will come as an angel of light which paints a dramatically different picture. Think more of the traditional angel art you are used to seeing. Not ugly, evil or threatening at all.

Now, you have Satan's cabals of which the Illuminati might be said to be a generic name for them. Satan is the Lord of Light or Lucifer = Illuminati, illuminated. This year is the International Year of Light. Some say it's significant when taken altogether with a bunch of other stuff. You can tie in a bunch of the Freemason symbolism and the ancient Mystery Religions.

You can even tie in the current population conception of Jesus, the doe-eyed anglo-man we're all used to seeing everywhere. Most people who think about it know Christ was not really described in the Bible and that he was a man of ME Jewish descent, so he isn't likely to be a gorgeous looking white man. So, again the theory is that even in the churches, we're being groomed to accept an image that isn't what the reality would be, a clever deception. Something very like the Christ image in I Pet Goat ii that had the Illuminati eye (linked the mystery religions, eye of horus) on his forehead). The false Christ, Beast system messiah, the one who comes first and deceives.

And if you think about it, it fits. There is no way all the world would be so willing to accept and mark unless they bought into this figure - people of all races, creeds, nationalities. It has to be a real deception. They have to mostly want the mark, not be forced to it. They have to see something they buy into as legitimate, and this would be a figure who rises up and seems to destroy this corrupt system everyone attributes to the current powers that be who are now outing themselves as Illuminati. They aren't going away. They're just making room for their guy - the deceiver who will establish the NWO beast system.

Anyhow, that's the theory as I've pieced it together from the Spiritual perspective. As I said, there are other versions from other angles.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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Isn't it possible that Madonna is trying to stay relevant in her older age (by pop "star" standards)?

Isn't it possible that she is using "writing on the wall" as a metaphor, as it is used 99.9% of the time rather than actual writing on walls?

Isn't it possible she's a self-righteous has-been claiming insider knowledge in order to perpetuate the illusion that she is someone?

Pop music has really gone downhill.

I do not see a deeper meaning. I see talentless multi-millionaires who should be ignored.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: intrptr




the arrogant conspiracy deniers who will call people sluts, gay and generally piss in everyones cheerios….


guilty as charged
in my book anyone that admits to having" several abortions", and if the an unauthorized biography is true, she has had 11 of them. her brother also claims it to be true.

for me,that is a slut who is using abortion as birth control.

where's your bowl of cheerios.

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posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

So....

And this question will sound snarky and I assure you it is not so please don't take it as such

Lady Gaga covering an eye in a music video is somehow conditioning people to accept the anti-Christ?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
Welp, there you have it. We ought to know better than to come to a conspiracy website and talk about conspiracies… they don't exist. At least according to all the arrogant conspiracy deniers who will call people sluts, gay and generally piss in everyones cheerios….

unless the subject is Russia.

Then Everything, no matter how meaningless is proof Putin did it.


pretty much nailed it. Though in their defense, even I have to admit I wish I didn't know any of this. Ignorance can be bliss, but that bliss can come at a very price which is why I feel morally responsible to spread what I know.


However, my concern isn't about proving their existence. It is obvious they exist. My concern however, is that many people after listening to her song will start seeing them as "the good guys". And THAT i have a problem with because its promoting acceptance to an organization which has so much controversy surrounding it. It is a topic worth posting on ats because of the implications it brings.

The fact is this: She is talking about it. She is defending them.

Those two things are facts. And that is what I wanted to point out. You guys can deny it, dismiss it. But it wont change the reality. It was mentioned, it was spoken of as a "good thing".


For that reason is why I said it was disclosed. because this happened. Now I ask ATS. What now? Now that this has come out. How do you think the public in general will react? because here is the funny thing. Her albums will reach millions globally. Meaning many will be hearing this song and think "they are saviors".

Reminds me of this T.V commercial I saw some time ago. They think themselves as "good guys".




posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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If somebody bought Madonnas soul I think they got ripped off!


The devil might be coming to get his money back from all these entertainers


Madonna has always thought she was the second coming of Mary Magdalene


She has a Goddesses syndrome ego


Be that as it may, Madonna just believes Illuminati is a word of light referring to men of enlightenment versus the dark age narrow minded clerics who would burn you at the stake if you didn’t believe in their dogma


Do these anti-Madonna, anti-Illuminati people want to go back to the dark ages?


If no then bring the people an alternative paradigm instead of just mocking others perspective



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
If the theory is correct, then the idea is predictive programming, grooming, telling you what to expect without you realizing you've been told. Subtle mind control. Surely you've read all that before?


I have and I can frankly say that it does not influence me if that was the intent, how about you?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
You can tie in a bunch of the Freemason symbolism...


I would love to see you do that.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

I was asked to give a straightforward answer. I gave it.

If I was fully bought in, I'd be making my own threads on the subject. If you want to see how the freemason symbolism is tied in ... I suggest YouTube. There are hours and hours devoted to the symbolism.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
If I was fully bought in, I'd be making my own threads on the subject. If you want to see how the freemason symbolism is tied in ... I suggest YouTube. There are hours and hours devoted to the symbolism.


And the bulk of them are made by idiots who would not know a 'Masonic symbol' if it smacked them up side the head.

If you cannot back up what you said without resorting to, 'check YouTube' why even post it?



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