It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
And television, we mustn't forget television.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: intrptr
I presume you are only holding someone else's agenda, assigned to vet that here.
Ah, the classic loser's ploy: 'you're a shill.' Against the T&C these days, I believe.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: intrptr
Where would this Web site be if we all stopped believing in conspiracy theories?
It only exists because conspiracies make people look for alternatives to the same old lying media.
You're only here to troll and make a farce of any search for truth. I didn't know that before now.There are many ways to minimize and downplay conspiracies. Your approach was harder to see through at first. Thanks for letting me see you.
To say i'm dissapointed is an understatement. I was preparing to get my fantasies crushed by your scientific reasoning...instead...you link to a thread were you got destroyed...and by the site owner himself...and a few other members. Your only champion in that thread was Phage. No surprise there.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly
To say i'm dissapointed is an understatement. I was preparing to get my fantasies crushed by your scientific reasoning...instead...you link to a thread were you got destroyed...and by the site owner himself...and a few other members. Your only champion in that thread was Phage. No surprise there.
I'm glad you read the thread. I must say my own feelings about it are different: I feel decidedly uncrushed. Would I have linked to it if I thought it proved me wrong?
You claim that no conspiracy that was uncovered, was a "theory" beforehand. I think that's pretty brave stance. You couldn't possibly know that for a fact.
You come off of a position of having great knowledge about people's minds, like there is a record about everything that people think, or write in their private journals or share with friends or groups of people. Not everything is on the internet.
For classic conspiracy theories -- the ones that are discussed on ATS and other conspiracy Web sites -- it is perfectly possible to state with confidence that they are a priori false. There is no evidence to support them, they presuppose implausible levels of cooperation and secrecy among large groups of conspirators, and they are usually put forward by people who have no connexion with the supposed conspiracy or conspirators, but get their information from the media and the Internet.
Even the so-called 'whistleblower testimonies' you read on here are not nearly credible.
It doesn't need to be. You don't learn about people by reading about them on the internet; you do it by observing and interacting with them in real life, as well as through self-knowledge that is also applicable to others. A sceptical acquaintance with psychology and history are also very useful.
It's a talent, and people possess it in varying degrees. It can be developed further through use and study. For some occupations, it is a necessity.
Such folk have a very poor understanding of human nature, including their own, and it is rarely easy for them to see what may be obvious to someone with more highly developed social and psychological intuition.
debilitating and self-destructive vice of indulgence in conspiracy theories.
You really believe in them, don't you? After ten years on this site I still find it a little hard to wrap my head around the fact that so many people do. It seems so obvious to me that the world doesn't work like that.
Most people believe what the main stream media tells them to. Only a few raise questions about world events. If you can;t wrap your head around one should question authority, then you are just their puppet and minion.
You must still believe in Santa. You do celebrate Christmas, decorate a tree, string lights and buy stuff… for your kids?
Why do you lie to your kids?
There was no Iraq WMD conspiracy theory
Snowden's revelations did not validate any existing conspiracy theory
What makes me think I'm good at understanding other people? A successful, well-rewarded and well-regarded career doing the things I mentioned in an earlier post (which, as I said, are occupations that demand a good understanding of people), a generally good reputation in the society I inhabit, a wide circle of friends in which all walks of life and shades of faith and opinion are represented, and the fact that all my former lovers (including, until a recent property dispute caused friction, my ex-wife) are still my friends and are generally pleased to see me. The fact that my oldest friends are still close to me... stuff like that. Of course, you are at liberty to read whatever you like into my posts.
1. When you come to believe that other people are the cause of your troubles, you either give up trying to make things better for yourself or you buy an assault rifle and shoot up the local primary school.
2. When your picture of the world and how it works is based on a fantasy, you cannot plan or act effectively to get what you want from life.
3. The paranoia and misanthropy bred by dedication to conspiracy theories are socially and sexually unattractive, so people tend to shun you and it's hard to get laid.
Where you fail in your understanding of human nature is, that 98 % of people are not free thinkers or remotely in the know about world affairs or even care for it.
So people like you...and that means you understand human nature ? People like puppies and cats...they also like jokers, and party makers.
My parents, my school, my govrnment is not to blame for circumstances of my life.
But make no mistake: nobody wants to have their opinions formed for them.
live comfortably in the world because I have learnt how to understand and get on with people.
I won't bother to discuss your comments regarding Iraq WMD, etc. I've made myself clear enough, and if you can't or don't want to see it, that's your privilege.
Oh, dear Lord. I'm arguing with a child. All is made clear at last.
Okay, Mario. Forget everything I've just said. Sixteen, or nineteen, or whatever it is you are, was never supposed to be as wise as sixty (well, fifty-seven). You're a smart kid, that's for sure.
Nonsense. Almost nobody, excepting a few mental defectives, believes unquestioningly in what the media tells them.
Everybody is concerned about world events.
I do, however, celebrate Christmas, because it is fun and it brings people together.
So I'm a child for taking responsibility for my life?
Actually...I'm 40...but thanks for the compliment.
So media doesn't form opinions ?
So if I entertain conspiracy theories...I cant get along with people...and am an outcast ? Jesus man. What are you on...and what is this fantasy world you live in