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The Schoolgirl The Nazis and The Purple Triangles

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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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I was doing some research on religiously motivated opposition to oppressive governments in the past and I found this video.
This won a best film festival award in 2013.

This video is very thought provoking regardless of belief system, religious or otherwise.
It's about having the courage just to do what is right, no matter the cost and against an overwhelming cultural tide that comes about.
The motivation to do it can come from anywhere, but in this case, it was one little girls understanding that she must obey God rather than Hitler.

I especially urge all Christians in America to watch this, as history might be getting ready to repeat itself, and it begs the question, when the time comes, will we have the courage and faith of this little girl ?






posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I have not watched the full video, but the word HAIL comes from salutation


a greeting, a wishing health to

I don't think the hail and salute to hitler shows anything other than what a wave and saying good day means. It is not kneeling nor worshiping and this act in itself I would not consider worth risking life over.

I will watch the rest later.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I thought it was the Black Triangles that the Nazis were responsible for or maybe it was the U.S? Goddamn "Operation Paperclip" blurring the lines somewhat.

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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: Char-Lee
The "Hitler greeting", the so-called "Nazi salute", was considered compulsory.


"Anyone not wishing to come under suspicion of behaving in a consciously negative manner will therefore render the 'Hitler-greeting'." German decree, 1933

(For the sake of speed, I just copied that quote across from one of my own threads)
The people who made it compulsory obviously thought it had great significance. Not trivial at all.

P.S. When Catholics say "Hail Mary", they mean more than "Hello".


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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: Char-Lee

That's how it all started, they didn't know how far it would go, or how it was all going to end, but now we know how it did end.

Think about it, she was like a canary in a coal mine.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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It would be great if most religious Americans had the courage to stand up for what is right, but sadly the last 8 years have shown otherwise.

The lesson I have learned is that you have to save yourself, most people will turn on you, or give in to pressure from "the powers that be", at the drop of a hat.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I have not watched the full video, but the word HAIL comes from salutation


a greeting, a wishing health to

I don't think the hail and salute to hitler shows anything other than what a wave and saying good day means. It is not kneeling nor worshiping and this act in itself I would not consider worth risking life over.

I will watch the rest later.

I believe you are wrong here. It is more of hailing Hitler as the supreme ruler. They are not saying "Good Day". Just my opinion and I think the opinion of the girl in the video.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I thought it was the Black Triangles that the Nazis were responsible for or maybe it was the U.S? Goddamn "Operation Paperclip" blurring the lines somewhat.


The Nazis had a whole color-coded system depending on who and what you were in their undesirable system. Gays were pink, Jews were yellow, etc.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: Char-Lee

Also, does it matter exactly what the Sieg Heil meant to everyone else? To her and those with her beliefs, only Christ was worthy of such, so she should not salute. In a society that values liberty, such should be respected. That it wasn't was the beginning of the severe nationalism and fascism that characterized Germany.

Just imagine that someone made it compulsory for you to stand and say the entire Pledge every day at the same time, including the words Under God, in this country? No matter what your beliefs? And if such a thing were allowed and begun, imagine where it might go from there.

I understand that standing is customary and so is reciting, but if you refuse, no one comes and drags you away or threatens you with legal repercussions.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

They had quite an extensive ID system in place as this chart identifies all the undesirables, basically if you weren't a white German Nazi that wholly supported their ideology, the Gestapo could come and take you away at any time.
And they did.
There is a lot of categories here. If you had more than just a triangle, you could be in double/triple trouble with the Nazi's



Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Im aware of the racist homophobic totalitarian system they had in place. To be honest i was just trying to bring attention to the fact that rather a few of those very same people responsible for those atrocity's were essentially re-purposed and/or re-homed in one of the very same nations that fought against the Nazi ideologies. The irony is palpable as is the fact that our banking houses also sponsored both sides during the conflict.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Yes, Project Paperclip.

The question I guess is just how deep the true believers of the Nazi cause went, and how much do you punish a nation and people for their national madness? Should we have jailed and/or executed all of the German army and everyone connected to it as Nazi collaborators?

I mean, by today's standards, I suppose we should have since we are essentially embarking on a quest to scrub the entire Civil War from history so as to avoid hurting the feelings of African-Americans/blacks (I'm not sure which label I am supposed to use having drawn flack for using both recently).


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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 05:13 PM
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"The question I guess is just how deep the true believers of the Nazi cause went, and how much do you punish a nation and people for their national madness?"

I cant really comment considering my own nation pretty much came up with the modern day concept of the concentration camp during the Boer war.

I would however say, at a push, that to punish future generations for the actions there nation has perpetrated in the past seems futile to me and counterproductive. The real tragedy is the fact that history does and will repeat itself simply because humanity has a penchant for repeating mistakes and refuses to learn from the past.
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posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

If I may interject for just a moment... Yes, Catholics say "Hail Mary..", and we do mean more than just hello, but, we must give credit where credit is due.

The angel Gabriel said "Hail Mary....", in Luke. And that's why we say it, and why every Christian should as well. Doesn't hurt.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Ignatian
Where did you see me criticising what Catholics say?
I was responding to the suggestion that "Hail Hitler" was a trivial statement.



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

I'm not saying you were being critical, I was just clarifying your original comment, that implied it was a "catholic thing", to say Hail Mary. It's an angel Gabriel thing.



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