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The Elephant in The Room - The Culture of Minority Violence

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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: rexsblues
a reply to: MoonBlossom

You're spot on, poverty is a huge factor in this. However, like you said not just the minorities are impoverished. The real issue here is a culture of violence that seems to be magnified if not widely excused by poverty. I think the bigger issue is the combination of socially identifying with poverty and a criminal culture all the while desperate for change. It's a nightmare of a paradox, but again one the culture imposes on itself and embraces, if not celebrates.



This. Its a combination of cultural issues and poverty. The new neo-liberalism isnt doing them any favors by pushing the elimination of family as a cultural value. All this pc nonsense and paper tiger propaganda, that which spurs the hordes into a mindless rage, is derived from the rise of feminism. Its not the only problem by any means, and not the root, but it is the driving force guiding the american dissolution of family as a concept.

That all sounds rather conservative, and im not really. Its just the truth though as best I can tell. Im all for equality, for true justice, for people being able to do whatever they want with themaelves if they arent hurting anyone, for eliminating prohibition, which is used against minority communities, for reinforcing family as a cultural value, and for the right to have a cultural identity. Strong cultural identity is important, and instead, we have this push to homogenize into this feminist neo-liberal culture that is meant to replace all other cultures. They do not want anyone to have any cultural roots to anchor and draw on, because then you are easy to control and manipulate.

Now, thats just my opinion, and theres a lot of stuff involved in an issue as big as this. So, probably, a lot of us are right to a certain extent. I respect differing opinions so long as they arent calling me names for no reason.
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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 09:48 PM
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I never thought in a million years I'd comment on a thread like this, lot's of strong opinions but here goes . . .

Being Bougie is the main problem with "The Hood".
"The Hood" doesn't like it when you get an education or a good job or move to a nice neighborhood or can afford a nice vacation, or even an iPad. They consider it putting yourself above them and they drag you down if you have any contact with them, "it's considered not cool" according to my friend.

My friend who is 52 years old, smart, witty, well read, someone you'd love to be around, is black, and is on occasion transgender. I've never seen him dressed up but he told me he does. Never graduated High School but wanted to.

He was studying at my house for his GED but after a short trip home said everyone was calling him a bougie. And I said "They're calling you a candle in French?" He laughed and said no, it was an insult. He said the culture of "The Hood" was anti all education, anti anything white, anti, anti, anti. That they thought he thought he was above them to get his GED. He had already rented a townhouse away from "The Hood" and had a steady job as security at concerts, etc.

He was getting some STRONG feedback against this and as it was he refused to give any of them his new address 'cause they'd probably break in and wreck the place.

Okay, so there ya go, imho Michelle and Obama should spend their time on TV spots saying "education is cool" instead of "eat your veggies". This country should go all out on saturating that message in the most interesting ways to ingrain it into "The Hood's" mindset.

Just my 2 cents,

STM
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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 09:54 PM
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Gangs, drugs, crime, broken families, lack of education, no jobs. And people expect them to rise above all that. They might not be that strong. Are you?

Walk a mile in their shoes.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: WUNK22

What the heck is White privilege?

I have been white all my life and I have had absolutely no privileges what so ever.

More things are handed to blacks and Hispanics than whites.

You must be mistaken and you must have meant Ethnic Privilege or minority Privilege because for the last 50 years they are the ones who have had things handed to the on a silver platter.





If you have to ask what White Priviledge is, then you wouldn't comprehend it if someone explained it thoroughly to you.


You would just have excuses as say 'I'm not racist'.


Many do that, it just further reiterates how simple they really are.

(I'm white)



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: pirhanna

Dude, that's an undercurrent I completely missed. I agree with that 100%.

This modern collective pc mentality is no doubt hyper-feminized. You take into account all the 'mama's boys' growing up without fathers and it's really no wonder why we're falling into this so easily. What's troubling is the psychological ramifications of that. Just imagine Ed Gein / Norman Bates on massively collective scale.

That's our future.
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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

You're absolutely correct my friend, Many pro Athletes claim the exact same thing after they get an education and become millionaires. ~$heopleNation



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

They're "too white", if they get educated because that would mean they are pandering to "whitey". Thug culture is a sick cancer that needs to be removed, NOW, not further glamorized.


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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Ok, good. Back to Africa then, then they would no longer be a minority. A homogeneous society is always preferable and superior. Since white people are just a problem and descendants of evil cannibals anyway maybe black people could go and live amongst themselves and see how that goes.

The truth is, populations in Africa are bloated. They couldn't sustain themselves without outside support. What will the liberal idiots be doing when the population of Africa rises from 1 billion to 4 billion in this century? What will the liberal idiots be doing when white people make up 50% of the populations in the Western world? That'll work out great.. I can't believe the blundering idiocy of the mainstream populace in having painted themselves into a corner like this with such self righteous zeal. The absurdity of it.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

I dislike riots as well. And I agree, if this keeps getting out of hand we're bound to see more of them.

Almost looks like controlled demolition. I don't think the issue is going away anytime soon, what makes it worse is that it's an election cycle, and issues like this make for great attack ads on political opponents.

It's gonna be a dirty election cycle. And in there eyes you never let a good crisis go to waste. Things will surely be heating up as we draw closer to the primaries and debates.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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You can make an argument that money is the root of the problem here.

You dont see any rich on rich violence, do you?

We (the poor, basically) are the majority, therefore the rich must be insulated, protected, priviledged as they are the minority.

The stats provided in the OP help I suppose, but I dont think they are surprising to anyone with common sense. It's a great topic though, if you want to beat a dead horse and further weaken race relations or fuel pointless political bickering.

I'm not a socialist, but damn the 1% sure do have a ton of money! I wonder what society would be like if half of people actually gave a damn about....people.

What do I know?, I'm just trying to stay afloat, stay alive and keep a low profile.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: THEatsking

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: WUNK22

What the heck is White privilege?

I have been white all my life and I have had absolutely no privileges what so ever.

More things are handed to blacks and Hispanics than whites.

You must be mistaken and you must have meant Ethnic Privilege or minority Privilege because for the last 50 years they are the ones who have had things handed to the on a silver platter.





If you have to ask what White Priviledge is, then you wouldn't comprehend it if someone explained it thoroughly to you.


You would just have excuses as say 'I'm not racist'.


Many do that, it just further reiterates how simple they really are.

(I'm white)


White privelege is a myth created by feminism to give original guilt, to control and manipulate. Its goal is to say that you are invalid because of your race. Talk to the working poor that happen to be white. There is certainly discrimination, but white privelege? No, the only privelege is that of the very wealthy.

For example, if you haave two dogs and their master beats the first once, and the second twice, does that make first dog priveleged? No, obviously not, except in thi new upside down world we live in where reality is no longer reality.
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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: six67seven

Since I lost my last job, I am living at below the poverty level. I can only say this online, because I have made access to the internet a priority, right up there with food and rent. (I know, I'm weird like that) I'm obviously white and there are millions of others like me. The numbers don't lie. Where's all the white on white violence? Where's the white on BLACK violence for that matter? (The media LOVES to cherry pick those isolated incidents) There is statistically more black on white violence than visa versa and blacks are the minority!! Black on black violence reigns absolutely supreme in terms of violence in the U.S.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is a THUG culture problem, not a poverty problem or a race problem. The problem is, the black community has embraced it's own "thug" culture. It's the CULTURE that has caused the majority of black crimes, jail time, hate, murders, robberies, race-baiting etc. The black community needs to renounce it (thug culture), and it needs to be ABOLISHED, period. It's a cancer on American society and has no place whatsoever here.
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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: prepared4truth

Are you a slave?

Why are you owed money if you aren't or never were one?

Don't bring up the Japanese. They actually were the internees.

And if we start paying reparations as you claim we should, at what percentage do we stop saying a person is owed? You are aware that just about every American, white and black alike, has African DNA. So where do you draw the line? And what about those who came after slavery ended? Are they similarly owed? Why or why not?

What about Native Americans? What about Native Americans whose ancestors were slaves?

Which Americans pay? White ones? What about white Americans who came after slavery ended? How do you divide the percentage of an American who should make payment? See you can't use tax money because then you would be using black American money to help pay black Americans for reparations.

You see, this is a very sticky issue, and I don't think there is any way to sort it out.



I don't think that questions should limit action. Especially the questions you've posed, which merely dance around the issue. That attitude achieves nothing. It is true that when Native Americans were paid reparations, many white people came out in droves claiming that they were owed reparations. This is a problem. But I believe it can be overcome if tackled properly.

Now onto the actual concept of reparations. It is not based on whether I am a slave or not, so that question is unnecessary. And as far as Japanese people, I would never claim to speak for them unless I was myself Japanese (are you comparing internment camps to the brutality of 400 years of enslavement? if so that is foolish and also unnecessary). It is true that we all share African DNA but this was true even during slavery. Meaning that a person's lineage can definitely be traced back to that time period and it can easily be shown who was enslaved and who was not. This "where do we draw the line" question is silly at best.

A tax can be introduced, or slave owners' families who have prospered in direct correlation to slavery (not that hard to discern) would be one that could be settled democratically. If only people would stop pretending that their deeds haven't affected the current state of affairs...

You see, this is a very sticky issue but there are actually many ways to sort it out if you just open your eyes and stop screaming nah nah na boo boo.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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I am unable to add a scientific comment at this point. I don't see the race based differences here in my OK city. I am aware of this chart. I hope everyone can work it out. If there is anyone in doubt, let me assure you, we have a lot of fun here.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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We're going in circles... although I think that's unavoidable, given the topic.



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: rexsblues
We're going in circles... although I think that's unavoidable, given the topic.


Well, if people would address the actual issue, and stop trying to play dumb, serious steps COULD be taken to rid us of this cancer. No more going in circles. The whole thing has been politicized however, and in this case it's the "liberals" trying to make excuses and playing dumb on everything which has caused this never ending paradox.

When things are politicized, common sense flies out the door. I do believe almost everyone knows that THUG culture is to blame, but rather than exercise common sense, it would benefit some people more by constantly trying to flash the tired and old "race card".

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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: six67seven

Since I lost my last job, I am living at below the poverty level. I can only say this online, because I have made access to the internet a priority, right up there with food and rent. (I know, I'm weird like that) I'm obviously white and there are millions of others like me. The numbers don't lie. Where's all the white on white violence? Where's the white on BLACK violence for that matter? (The media LOVES to cherry pick those isolated incidents) There is statistically more black on white violence than visa versa and blacks are the minority!! Black on black violence reigns absolutely supreme in terms of violence in the U.S.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is a THUG culture problem, not a poverty problem or a race problem. The problem is, the black community has embraced it's own "thug" culture. It's the CULTURE that has caused the majority of black crimes, jail time, hate, murders, robberies, race-baiting etc. The black community needs to renounce it (thug culture), and it needs to be ABOLISHED, period. It's a cancer on American society and has no place whatsoever here.


Agreed. But quality parenting, mentorship and education is hard to come by in their particular culture.

It's almost as if they have nothing better to do...if they only had a concept of 'purpose'

Again, what do I know...



posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: six67seven

Check a few posts above yours by "seentoomuch". His post emphasizes that it really has nothing to do with anything more than a culture that has taught their kids any and all things anti-white. To many within this culture, getting an education is to pander to the whites.

This is a sick thug CULTURE of dads and moms teaching these things to their children. (many have dads that bailed etc) It's a plague that is not caused by poverty. It was caused by hate toward an entire race due to ill-conceived notions regarding whites in America. It is complete mis-guided deception to justify a violent, disrespectful and failed culture. The civil rights movement means absolutely nothing to them. Martin Luther King JR, his values, and common sense involving any sort of moral ground really mean squat right now. This is a culture of hate, and it has taken over a large portion of the black community to justify the thug lifestyle of murder, rape, robbery, thuggery and any other type of crime we can possibly imagine.
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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep

originally posted by: rexsblues
We're going in circles... although I think that's unavoidable, given the topic.


Well, if people would address the actual issue, and stop trying to play dumb, serious steps COULD be taken to rid us of this cancer. No more going in circles. The whole thing has been politicized however, and in this case it's the "liberals" trying to make excuses and playing dumb on everything which has caused this never ending paradox.

When things are politicized, common sense flies out the door. I do believe almost everyone knows that THUG culture is to blame, but rather than exercise common sense, it would benefit some people more by constantly trying to flash the tired and old "race card".




I couldn't have said it better.

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posted on Jul, 15 2015 @ 11:47 PM
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In a predominantly white society, naturally, more non whites will find themselves on the opposite side of the law.

Combined with America's recent slave history; black ghettos; violent and misogynistic crap-rap culture (and the riches said pursuit is often advertised as engendering); the targeting of the 'easy pickings' minority groups by law enforcement; the penal industrial complex etc... it all adds up to qualify the cited statistics.

Also, many corporate criminals - those most societally deleterious of all - are white males and go untouched (one of the many perks funding electoral campaigns) and therefore are not reflected in such statistics.




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