...Just the simple fact that I can't even attempt to post facts like this without seeming racist, kind of gives me a headache and pisses me off. I
mean I had to go over the title of the thread again and again asking myself, "I don't know about that, does that sound racist?" I mean jesus this
institutionalized guilt is getting ridiculous. That being said, I'm not racist and I'm not trying to provoke any bias, but how is it this topic is
never seriously discussed? Are we really that afraid to point it out?
Some studies had argued for smaller racial disparities in violent crime in recent times. However, a study of government data from 1980–2008 found
that the reduction in Black violent crime relative to White violent crime was an artifact of those previous studies, which was due to Hispanic
offenders being counted as White in the comparison. The Hispanic population has been increasing rapidly and Hispanics have violence rates higher than
that of Whites but lower than that of Blacks.
According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites (including Hispanics)
45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were
intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.
The "National Youth Gang Survey Analysis" (2011) state that of gang members, 46% are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are African-American/black, 11.5% are
white, and 7% are other race/ethnicity.
According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile
violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories
except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness.
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times higher than whites, and blacks were
16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites. Robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times
more common than the reverse.
According to a 2009 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2007 Latinos "accounted for 40% of all sentenced federal offenders-more than triple
their share (13%) of the total U.S. adult population". This was an increase from 24% in 1991. 72% of the Latino offenders were not U.S. citizens. For
Hispanic offenders sentenced in federal courts, 48% were immigration offenses and 37% drug offenses. One reason for the large increase in immigration
offenses is that they exclusively fall under federal jurisdiction.
Racially motivated hate crime
The federal government publishes a list annually of Hate Crime Statistics, 2009 Also published by the federal government is the Known Offender's
Race by Bias Motivation, 2009. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58.6% of hate crime
offenders were white (including Hispanics), 18.4% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders
were Native Americans. The report also reveals that 48% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by the victim's race, while 18% were based on the
victim's religion, and another 18% were based on the victim's sexual orientation. The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by
race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias.
The bolded text in that last paragraph is in stark contrast to the statistics listed prior, and is to denote the evidence of the amount victimization
bias that goes into even reporting a hate crime. We are to believe and many have accepted that any crime against the majority from the minority is
simply "normal crime" and not "hate crime" as is often considered/reported when reversed.
African- American Mob Violence
This is not violence by protesters or during protests. These are groups of youths over the past few years, predominately African-Americans under the
age 25. Which are overwhelming shopping centers, intersections, pulling people out of cars, beating innocent bystanders, vandalizing vehicles,
looting, robbing, in some instances even killing. Again these congregations are not for any cause of political protest. These are (as many MSM
reporters describe) just kids or "teens" 'having fun'. And as with the 'knockout game' these weekly events and crimes are being ignored by not only
the media but the local police in the overwhelming majority of instances.
Let me go ahead and point out the fact that there's something uncomfortable about even reading this thread, something within us wants to either find
racism within this, or find a way to use it as a justifiable excuse for dismissing this culture of violence... isn't that f'd up? (Thanks MSM!)
This is about the facts presented and what is actually going on. Race is only being used here as a statistical and cultural denominator as within
each and every race still reside levels of contrasting cultural differences. We are all unavoidably, inherently bias. All we can hope for is to be
equally aware, and to do that we must look reality in the face.
originally posted by: WUNK22
Man here it comes, the left doesn't want facts getting in the way. If there's a problem it must be due to white privilege, racist America, police
brutality and colonialism! That's the ticket!
I would say the elephant in the room is social unrest. Look at Europe, I'd you follow it there are many unhappy citizens with the workings of their
government and world. I like addressing roots, so let's assume the poor and middle class fight and pay for wars and bailouts. Maybe people are fed up,
maybe people should adress things together. Or wait....that would be super liberal, like Obama. That real liberal guy who didn't get is in to Yemen
and he pulled out of the longest war in our history? Or things are as intended, and we continue to separate ourselves while the powerful obtain more
power as the whethy obtain more riches. There are politics and current events, I keep up on current events, call me a conspiracy theorist and I'll day
I have been white all my life and I have had absolutely no privileges what so ever.
More things are handed to blacks and Hispanics than whites.
You must be mistaken and you must have meant Ethnic Privilege or minority Privilege because for the last 50 years they are the ones who have had
things handed to the on a silver platter.
Back in the early 70's I went to a government program to help get some training since I was young white and poor. Filled out all the paperwork and was
told they could help find me a job but no training. I asked why and the government person said I was not a female or a minority and could not get
training. They did get me a job and that was it.
So we all know this world isn't fair? I'd rather embrace and recognize difference while not acting like someone else plays from different cards. I
think true tolerance is seeing the difference in another race/sex/nationality, but speaking in a manner they know you see that as equals. How furious
would I be if someone acted as if we are truly the same rather than just talking like equals and utilizing and embracing our differences and
diversity. We are different and the only bigotry is hiding that, anyone with siblings knows we are all not the same, doesn't mean we can't love that.
Unless and until someone studies the deep ramifications of generational poverty - and the anger and hopelessness that instills - this issue
will remain unresolved.
I see much the same within the native population in Canada. Generational poverty is a very real experience, and if it keeps getting ignored things
will remain much the same. I must say that it is also not solely experienced by minorities; and though the crimes may differ, generational poverty is
a prevalent cause of many incarcerations and lack of later success in life.
When people speak of privilege, one would be ignorant NOT to realize that living in a 2-parent home, and having a safe shelter and enough healthy food
to eat, and a financially stable family contribute vastly towards mental well-being for achieving success in life. This is of utmost
importance to the stability of children here now and yet to be born - and the opportunities afforded to them (or not), will see them sink or
One has to first see, that this is, in most cases, generational.
For every person who has themselves escaped poverty, they have had something of a support system that aided them along the way (in even just one of
the areas mentioned above, or a single person or lucky break), whether they choose to see it or not. Most are not so fortunate, however, and thus we
are where we are, societally.
FYI - Playing into the divisions of "us" and "them", this race and that race is doing exactly what the msm WANTS you to do. It's much easier
to point fingers all the live-long day, than to discuss the real issue and ramifications of poverty.
After all, someone must be accountable in (or benefiting from) a system that supports the continuation of poverty; and we wouldn't
want to deal with that, would we?
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White privilege has to do with a couple of issues.
1. If 70% of America is white then white people have an easier life due to the fact that people associate better with those that are like themselves
and when you are the majority it is an invisible advantage. As a reverse example if you are a white guy and you go to a gym to play basketball with a
lot of blacks you better have game, lots of it to be accepted, where the black guy who might be poor at basketball is accepted as association only.
2. With that said, the ambitious black person not only has to bring "game" based on lack of association, but must overcome the stereotypes of his
race. I'm not saying the stereotypes are incorrect, but many are not very good such as the OPs percentage example. Unfortunately the stereotypes of
his race that are are self induced tend to outweigh even the hurtle of association. Its like a double negative...
3. As example, a friend of mine (white) has a son who was 4.0 in high school, double major scholarship 4.0 in college, and today he works a 35k a year
job because he feels that society needs to bend to him and not the other way around. What this tells you is if you feel you do not need to conform to
society then society does need to accept you, no matter what race you happen to be.
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