Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

originally posted by: ketsuko
There is a messiah that could have been created, the Luciferian one that seems to be shown in I Pet Goat II. If that is the end game of TPTB, then the ultimate idea had to come from somewhere in history and the Illuminati can trace their roots back to the ancient Mystery religions.

What if the Messiah figure represented in the "I Pet Goat II" video is allegorical for the journey that each and every individual must experience in this world. What if we are the "Christ" figure awaking to our own "Christ Consciousness"?

Joseph Campbell use to say he knew of, at least , 26 versions of the"Christ" story. The name JESUS (fish?) is of Greek origin and an unlikely birth name for a jew from Nazareth, who reportedly traces his lineage back to Abraham.

a reply to: sirChill

"NOBODY puts BABY in a corner!"

originally posted by: DarthFazer
Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people.

I have held this assertion for at least a decade...it's hard not to come to that conclusion when you go through a few years of relatively intense research into the histories of religions.

originally posted by: fshrrex
Joseph Campbell use to say he knew of, at least , 26 versions of the"Christ" story. The name JESUS (fish?) is of Greek origin and an unlikely birth name for a jew from Nazareth, who reportedly traces his lineage back to Abraham.

Of course his birth name wasn't "Jesus". It was Yeshua (ישוע), or Yehoshua (יהושע‎).

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Yes..I am aware of the (formal) name of Yeshua(Joshua?) lbn/bin (son of) Joseph; however, it is a "sticking point when in conversation with aprox 99% of CHRISTIANS.

This argument conveniently disregards a basic axiom of logic: The burden of proof is always on the claimant. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof

It is logically impossible and logically contradictory to require another person to prove that something does not exist. We can only prove that something exists; nobody can prove that something does not exist.
But you know what.... is seems 'Trendy' to attack Religions, especially Christians and Jews at this juncture in time.

a reply to: DarthFazer
There's a few obvious problems with this. First, the "announcement" is hosted on a private web site. It appears the purpose of the web site is to promote a conference (door price is £35) that happened in 2013, a book, and a film. It's a marketing site, in other words. The host of the conference is the Conway Ethical Society, "an outspoken educational charity opposed to religious dogma." If this discovery were genuine, it would be presented to a specialist conference, not an activist group. This is a commercial enterprise.

Secondly, the research was announced through a press release site. Reputable research is usually published in journals. The more sensational finds get press, but it is not limited to press releases. If this hypothesis is worthwhile, it should be published, or answered, in a journal somewhere, or at least a specialist blog.

Now, as for the claim that Roman Empire wrote the New Testament to control people, it seems unlikely. The writing of the NT took decades, and its canonization was not complete for a century or so (depending on who you ask). The books of the NT themselves vary widely in style, linguistic affinity, and focus. They have a complex interrelationship and were written at different times by different people for different purposes. And they were written when Christianity was already a religion. If the Romans had shown up on the scene thirty-some years after Christ's death with a book and announced it was the new scripture, the bishops--whose task it was to maintain the "rule of faith" in succession to the apostles--would easily have been able to discern its veracity or lack thereof. The Church's beliefs were not based on the NT, the NT was accepted because it was in accord with what they already believed.

Of Course! And Al Gore invented the internet!

Oh boy!
We waste (give away) our precious energies arguing about issues like this.
You've probably heard this before, but if not, here's another notice:
Everything you know and believe is opposite of a true reality.

originally posted by: TheChrome
Of Course! And Al Gore invented the internet!

It was Malcolm Turnbull actually!

a reply to: DarthFazer

here's the full video on his theory
I haven't watched it yet but if anyone is interested here it is

a reply to: admirethedistance

This bull was written a couple of years ago by people who sit on their butts, drawing welfare, smoking crack and other things. This is so bogus it hurts man, really. Word

a reply to: Klassified
If you can provide clear evidence while they cannot provide reason whether it is now or after some research they may conduct on 1 or many occasions then the religion automatically can be assumed to be Less than 100% perfect meaning it has an imperfection there for should not be followed. It is good to ask questions... how else will you learn? Just in case one of them is right wouldn't it be wise to check up here and there during this lifetime (through legitimate sources)?

OK now this is a good one!

Where do I begin! I have always believed Jesus was made up but….when I say Jesus I don’t mean the concept but the name.

The name was given as a sense of false worship but the concept is real. Jesus (per say) was here on this earth on four different occasions at four different locations on the earth in four different time periods.

I’m my studies it was mentioned that the name Jesus is not the real name of the Savior and that the name Jesus was created for satanic worship. Where is, you think you are praising the son of the Almighty Creator of all things but you are worshipping the son of God and God is the a earthly co-creator and Satan (please don’t shot the messenger)

So this can have some truth to it but please believe also the devil is a lie. There is a Savior and I wish I could remember the name they mentioned but it started with a “K”. The letter J was not even in existence when Jesus was supposedly walking the earth and it was made up after the fact to distort the worship.

Just so that you know there is a bigger story behind this one! We have been tricked in the biggest way possible also. Just remember the bible said Satan is the great deceiver!

Considering the fact that there's no documents, even Roman regarding the existence of a man called Jesus Christ, the best thing people can assume is that he never existed at all, outside the Bible.

Joe's no scholar… it's an old disproven theory

Caesar's Messiah Debunked - Joseph Atwill's Covert Messiah Refuted
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a reply to: Frocharocha

do some research, the truth of Jesus is not even doubted by most atheistic scholars and MANY atheist researchers have converted due to the data:

yt: Jesus: Evidence, ancient historical sources
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Part I: Evidence of the existence of Jesus Christ by Simon Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University. Dr. Greenleaf was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated: 
"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

Part II examines evidence from the non-biblical sources of nineteen pagan writers that refer to Jesus Christ of the first century such as Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger. Also doucmented by Flavius Josephus, the greatest historian of the Jews.

"After six years given to the impartial investigation of Christianity as to its truth or falsity, I have come to the deliberate conclusion that Jesus Christ was the Messiah of the Jews, the Savior of the world and my own personal Redeemer." -- General Lew Wallace, one-time atheist, military general and literary genius, who along with Robert Ingersoll agreed together they would write a book that would forever destroy the myth of Christianity. Mr. Wallace studied for two years in the leading libraries of Europe and America for information to destroy Christianity. While writing the second chapter of his book, he suddenly found himself on his knees, crying out, "My Lord and my God." The evidence was overwhelmingly conclusive. Later, Wallace wrote "Ben Hur" one of the greatest Christian novels.
~ General Lew Wallace

a reply to: TWILITE22

Caesar's Messiah Debunked - Joseph Atwill's Covert Messiah Refuted


Caesar's Messiah Debunked - Joseph Atwill's Covert Messiah Refuted

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a reply to: DarthFazer
There have been so many of the same God or Son 'overlays' within different civilizations. Someone mentioned 23. Horus, Osiris, Zoroaster , Jesus, same story, virgin birth on the 25th of Dec. etc. etc. Is there any common sense at work here? Someone wants the human to follow the fairy tail beginnings of something (who's in charge). Its ridiculous. We are not children. It hasn't happened recently unless you count Mohammed. Overlays are idea forms put upon the human (not real at all) as this is a virtual place and we are the lab rats; it is surprising to me so few understand this. Its not about Jesus its about the 'consciousness' this idea was attempting to describe. It doesn't matter if he walked in 3D.