Pacific Northwest, The Big One or The Very Big One

From the New Yorker:

www.iflscience.com...

Yellowstone has received all the attention, but this fault may prove more plausible in the next half century. Either scenario should lead people to pack it up. I'm doubting they will listen.

This article is encouraging, in that it may keep fearful readers of the New Yorker away from the PNW.

a reply to: ecapsretuo

Ha! Also to anyone out there considering a move here it rains all the time, every day, especially in the summer. And sasquatch attacks are far more prevalent than the news would have you believe.

Anyone that's not trying to make dinner right now have a good website that shows what areas are most likely to receive the worst of an event like this?

This is in UK MSM today.

Scientists have outlined their alarmingly unhelpful tips on how to survive the earthquake that will hit the Pacific Northwest.

The quake along Cascadia, a fault line which runs from Cape Mendocino, California, to Vancouver Island, Canada, is 72 years overdue, according to peer-reviewed studies.

The 'Big One' will hit when Juan de Fuca, a 700-mile chunk of the Pacific Ocean, slides under Canada and America, causing the entire coastal region to sink at least six feet.

When - not if - it arrives, it is unlikely the people of coastal Oregon, Washington and California will be able to escape.

But if they want to try, there are a few tips they should keep in mind.

Escape on foot because roads will liquefy and start running when you hear dogs barking: Geographers offer advice on how to survive the earthquake predicted to obliterate the Pacific Northwest

Cascadia 'megathrust' faultline is 1,000km-long from California to Canada

It will clash with 700-square-mile plate in Pacific Ocean causing tsunami

Only way to escape is on foot as roads will 'liquefy', geographers say

Start running when you hear dogs barking, they will be reacting to the sound of compressional waves which humans cannot hear

Citizens will have 20 minutes to walk or run to higher ground

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... predicted-obliterate-Pacific-Northwest.html#ixzz3fupVADBj

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Great find, thanks. The "save yourself" advice reminds me of when Hurricane Ike was about to make landfall on Galveston/Bolivar Peninsula, when the Coast Guard issued an "Imminent Death" warning to all residents who were choosing to try and ride Ike out.

When the fault pops and the ground liquifies...jeez, I cannot imagine the chaos, followed by a major coastal tsunami? Wow, just wow. Seriously PNW folk, like DeNiro in the movie Heat, "Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat".

Yep a chilling future event…

I'd just sleep in a canoe and float in the liquifaction.

I grew up in southern Cali. I miss all those tremors.

a reply to: Boscov

Is there even a government contingency for that? Is there a plan for evacuation?

ETA I found some so there are contingency plans.

rsc.usace.army.mil...
www.oregon.gov...

a reply to: SeekingDepth

That was some excellent educational doom porn
Just had to comment on the vids,
especially the 2nd one, well worth 30 minutes of my time.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

In the case of Ike, the Coast Guard first issued the "Imminent Death" warning approximately 4 hours before landfall, but the eye was moving slowly, about 30 mph. Bolivar Peninsula beachfront was swept away and displaced over 300 yards, meaning over 500 homes were swept into the Gulf of Mexico. The foundations were all that were left, covered in close to 5 feet of silt and sand.

The Cascadia EQ and tsunami threat would happen over the course of 30-45 minutes, so short answer? No post fault strike contingency. Evacuation up the coast to elevations above 40 feet sealevel, plus the anticipated 6-10 foot drop of the coastal land mass. Roads are a no go, in theory due to liquification of porous soil, that will happen almost instantaneously and in waves, minutes if not seconds apart. No evacuation routes, just run to high ground strongholds.

"Imminent Death" for coastal areas. No joke.

The article is a wake-up call for many, but also reaffirms what seismologists have known for a while.

Op Source

Wake up call for those not here locally! Sure it can chase a few off if thinking of relocating.

Yellowstone has received all the attention, but this fault may prove more plausible in the next half century. Either scenario should lead people to pack it up. I'm doubting they will listen.

Pack up to the Eastern side of the area, experience less work(if not already established), more poverty. The moves won't happen for that reason.

Reports of this impending devastating EQ are nothing new. Interesting to see more info however.

Now is planning going to happen, finally after all the warnings though the years?

Schulz's chilling piece doesn’t pull any punches: it paints a doomsday scenario in which an estimated 13,000 people will die and an additional 27,000 will be injured. And that’s based on conservative projections. The elderly and the disabled are particularly vulnerable.

“I'm not going to sugarcoat it and say, ‘Oh, yeah, we’ll go around and check on the elderly,’” Kevin Cupples, a city planner in Oregon, told The New Yorker. “No. We won't.”

-OP Source
Sad...

I don't live to far inland form Eureka-I'm toast.

Well, they are having water shortages in California, so if people were smart they would move before their property becomes worthless. The values of property should never have gone as high as they did in California. Let the ones who created the false society and waste or destroy the resources stay there so mother earth can punish them as she sees fit.

Great. I just moved here, and this is the first thread I open on ATS since arriving. Thanks for the buzzkill guys. Now every time I hear a dog barking, I'm gonna be running outside with a lifejacket on

originally posted by: ecapsretuo
This article is encouraging, in that it may keep fearful readers of the New Yorker away from the PNW.

I hope so. I get sick of telling people it rains here all the time to keep them away. Now we have a new one to say!

Yep, that's the one that will trip Yellowstone and San Andreas. We're all Screwed

a reply to: Boscov

Honest to goodness doom porn that is real........This one makes my lose sleep. I have family and friends that would be affected and it makes me worry. This is not a what if.......It will happen in time. Hopefully it is not an epic event.



The OP said this should cause people to pack it up and move.......Most places in the country could be affected by a big quake. Yellowstone blowing it's top would wipe out 1/2 the country overnight.

originally posted by: mc_squared
Great. I just moved here, and this is the first thread I open on ATS since arriving. Thanks for the buzzkill guys. Now every time I hear a dog barking, I'm gonna be running outside with a lifejacket on

I know what you mean, having family there and may have to relocate that way to help 'em out in general. The coast seems to be better strategically if only Yellowstone blows, such as with the fallout path not covering that area in particular. Unless there's a chain reaction setting off the coastal faults.

a reply to: Boscov
Oh this story and the old mitchio kaku video has been going on again. Don't think Seattle is going to go in case of tsunami looking at the wiki it even says elevation 0 - 520 feet. The waterfront will go ya for sure, but the rest is one big hill, the whole of Seattle is built on hills. But that is only the tsunami, the earthquakes are another thing, if it really is big then ya, expect a lot of buildings to be falling the older ones literally crumbling.

Its pretty discouraging knowing that its only a matter of time when something like this will happen. Me and my family dont life far from the costal area, or Seattle even, more inland you would think, but looking at the wiki, nope not really. But we are moving and towards more coastal area I thought. Or at least its what I thought at first but I checked the wiki on the area we are likely to move to, and it looks like that even though its closer to the sea and the elevation is actually a bit higher in this new area we are going to move. Currently were we are living, on the wiki it says the elevation is 138 feet, and the likely place we will move to is at 354 feet elevation.

Either way, if it does actually happen any time soon, and by soon I mean next 20 years, its still going to suck, most especially for coastal city areas. I think places like Portland or Vancover may actually get it harder and have a lot more to deal with then places like Seattle. And even based on the elevation that is pretty easy to see, or at least as far as floodige and tsunami damage is concerned.

But hey who knows. They say it may happen within our lifetimes. But who knows. One thing is for sure, I was never one of these bug out people but it may be prudent to at least prepare something, and if we move, at the very least keep up the canned goods storage, you know.

I'm also worried about two nuclear reactors that might be affected by this event: Satsop in WA, and especially Diablo Canyon in CA, which could easily become another Fukushima-event.