Is President Obama (unknowingly) fulfilling the "Peace and Security" Prophecy?

a reply to: edmc^2

Change the heart of man or woman then you can change the world.

We're working on it. Much to the chagrine of the you naysayers.

So - you are one of those types who think "It can never happen. Prophecy has been spoken. God will come back and smite everyone."

Yet, you people are the ones who call yourselves "Christians" or "Bible-Believers" - and you are ALSO the ones refusing to even entertain the idea....

How does that make any sense at all?

(Hint: It doesn't. Don't be a coward. Step up and fight for equality and an end to violence, poverty, suffering, and disenfrachisement.)

(Or, don't. You all think you have the whole scenario figured out. I mean - defeatist attitudes make everything so secure and healthy!!! Not to mention the fact that you are wrong - unless you keep your holy rollers rooted to an ancient book of random sayings. Because Jesus. Jesus didn't want peace. Neither did "GOD".)

(Whatever.)

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: edmc^2

Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. It's a false flag. It is meant to fool everyone into thinking that we're on a verge of solving our greatest problems - peace and cooperation or peace and safety or peace and security for the world. Then out from nowhere "BOOM"!

REally!!! So, do you have a synopsis, or an outline for this fiction storyline??

Who is going to cause "BOOM!"??

I don't know who's going to cause "BOOM". But it says "sudden destruction".

Maybe Iran already has the nuke or other countries intent on world domination.

Do you think it's a fiction to believe that Iran doesn't have the bomb?

If not what about counties or groups intent on bringing in their "messiah"?

There are many avenues and ways of a "sudden" attack.

Exactly as the prophecy states.

originally posted by: edmc^2
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Yet I say to you...

[Mat 16:2-3 RSV] ..., "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather; for the sky is red.' 3 And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times".

Yet you said nothing to me.Those are the words of Yahoshua(for those that don't know) and he is speaking to you because you clearly do not even know the signs of common sense.You are extrapolating scriptures willy nilly then reading your doom porn agenda into them.
Are the present times tumultuous.... yes.Are they signs of the "end of the world"...who knows however it is NOT what Yahoshua or the disciples said.

Yahoshua preached (proclaimed by staement) one thing only...The Good news...the coming of Yahoshua which means Yahweh(the creator God) IS deliverance/salvation.He did not preach and end times destruction of the world and humanity by an hateful,angry, vengeful unjust God as Christianity does.

Matthew 16:2-3 is preached to the religious(you) about not knowing the the signs of the times of the coming of Yahoshua for ALL of creation(including ALL of mankind).The religious are completely blind to the creator Gods deliverance all they see is doom porn and hateful destruction.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: edmc^2

Change the heart of man or woman then you can change the world.

We're working on it. Much to the chagrine of the you naysayers.

Good luck with that!

Let's see - there's about 1 billion Muslim in the world and about 1 billion "Christian" in the world.

Can you unite the two let alone change each ones heart?

If so - how are going to do that?

Like I said - I can't even completely trust myself.

a reply to: edmc^2

Can you unite the two let alone change each ones heart?

If so - how are going to do that?

Simple. EDUCATION.

Hey, did you hear about the American Muslims who had a GoFundMe or crowd-source kind of fundraiser for the church that burned down?

So - I notice your username subtitle is "Serious Bible and Science Student".

Focus on science.

a reply to: edmc^2

Do you think it's a fiction to believe that Iran doesn't have the bomb?

Erm....YES - I think it's a fiction that they have the bomb...... I don't think they have 'the bomb'. Although your question was very poorly worded.....

Do I "think it's a fiction that they DON'T have the bomb?"

No.
I think they don't have the bomb.

If not what about counties or groups intent on bringing in their "messiah"?

What about them? You mean, like the Evangelical Christian Dominionists who want to bomb Iran?

There are many avenues and ways of a "sudden" attack.

So, you say you can't even trust yourself. I hope to hell you don't have a red button beneath your finger.

Focus on Science.

You mean, like the Evangelical Christian Dominionists who want to bomb Iran?

source?

any doubt what Iran would do if/when they get the bomb?

"The Iranian regime is not populated by Nazis, but it is led by people who do, in fact, seek the physical elimination of the Jewish state and its replacement by a Muslim state. It works toward this end, by sponsoring terrorist groups that regularly kill Jews, both in Israel and elsewhere."
Source: www.theatlantic.com...

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei: “It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region.” (2001)

a reply to: works4dhs

source?

John Hagee.


Three years ago ^^



Five years ago^^

Need more?
Do a youtube search for John Hagee.


EDUCATION.

originally posted by: Rex282

originally posted by: edmc^2
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Yet I say to you...

[Mat 16:2-3 RSV] ..., "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather; for the sky is red.' 3 And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times".

Yet you said nothing to me.Those are the words of Yahoshua(for those that don't know) and he is speaking to you because you clearly do not even know the signs of common sense.You are extrapolating scriptures willy nilly then reading your doom porn agenda into them.
Are the present times tumultuous.... yes.Are they signs of the "end of the world"...who knows however it is NOT what Yahoshua or the disciples said.

Yahoshua preached (proclaimed by staement) one thing only...The Good news...the coming of Yahoshua which means Yahweh(the creator God) IS deliverance/salvation.He did not preach and end times destruction of the world and humanity by an hateful,angry, vengeful unjust God as Christianity does.

Matthew 16:2-3 is preached to the religious(you) about not knowing the the signs of the times of the coming of Yahoshua for ALL of creation(including ALL of mankind).The religious are completely blind to the creator Gods deliverance all they see is doom porn and hateful destruction.

First off - I'm not talking about "end of the world" or the coming of Yehushua but a prophecy about people saying / crying for "peace and security". And by observation, this seems to be that time. This President is unknowing fulfilling it.

Whether you believe it or not, it's you're choice. But that's what I see.

a reply to: edmc^2

a prophecy about people saying / crying for "peace and security". And by observation, this seems to be that time.

So, like......
humor me here - I don't understand.
WHEN were there not people saying/crying for "peace and security"? Ever, in the history of man????

There is a reason why that in the early part of Revelations the US is spoken of several times. Then nothing from then on....
This coming from someone not affiliated with any religion at this time. If all the BS continues though.....

a reply to: works4dhs

any doubt what Iran would do if/when they get the bomb?

The entire world is working together to see to it that THAT doesn't happen.

Or, are you confused??? - I mean, what about whether or not Saddam Hussein had bombs/WMD????
Yeah.....he didn't.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

John Hagee who?

a reply to: edmc^2

Watch the videos. John Hagee. Televangelist multi-millionaire extraordinaire.

Real guy.
War monger.


*sigh*

Here - I did this bit of homework for you:

Over 40,000,000 American Christians are influenced by what we call, "Angry Evangelicalism," better known as Christian Zionism. Christian Zionists like John Hagee and Benny Hinn wear a mantle of righteousness but often ignore the teachings of Jesus and invoke their will in the name of Jesus, ignoring declarations of Christ like...

"Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God," "Love your neighbor as yourself" and, even "Love your enemy."

No wonder so many people dislike and loathe Christians. This 4 minute video provides a snapshot of the problem and illustrates one way to challenge those Christians who, for example, fervently believe that the modern state of Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and are even willing to go to war against a country like Iran to protect Israel.

vimeo.com...
FORTY MILLION. Forty. Million.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: works4dhs

any doubt what Iran would do if/when they get the bomb?

The entire world is working together to see to it that THAT doesn't happen.

Or, are you confused??? - I mean, what about whether or not Saddam Hussein had bombs/WMD????
Yeah.....he didn't.

That's just it. You can't completely trust EVERYONE - especially those who are in power.

Let's see who has the nuke:

Acknowledged: U.K., China, France, India, Pakistan, Russia, United States, Israel, North Korea

Seeking: Syria, Iran?

www.infoplease.com...

www.mapsofworld.com...


Now that there's a deal with Iran, what are the chances, that they won't have one in the near future - if they don't have it already?

a reply to: edmc^2

Well, then, if you're a doom-porn junkie, that's what you are.

Focus on science. Forget the Bible. You'll feel better - and maybe even contribute to world peace.

See my above post.
JOHN HAGEE.
FORTY MILLION.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: edmc^2

Watch the videos. John Hagee. Televangelist multi-millionaire extraordinaire.

Real guy.
War monger.


*sigh*

Here - I did this bit of homework for you:

Over 40,000,000 American Christians are influenced by what we call, "Angry Evangelicalism," better known as Christian Zionism. Christian Zionists like John Hagee and Benny Hinn wear a mantle of righteousness but often ignore the teachings of Jesus and invoke their will in the name of Jesus, ignoring declarations of Christ like...

"Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God," "Love your neighbor as yourself" and, even "Love your enemy."

No wonder so many people dislike and loathe Christians. This 4 minute video provides a snapshot of the problem and illustrates one way to challenge those Christians who, for example, fervently believe that the modern state of Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and are even willing to go to war against a country like Iran to protect Israel.

vimeo.com...
FORTY MILLION. Forty. Million.

This may shock you but I'm one of those who believe that organized religion will be done away with. It will start with those who are professing to be "Christians" then followed by the rest.

Any Christian who "takes up the sword would perish by it."

a reply to: edmc^2

Scriptures:

[1Th 5:3 KJV] 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

Obama:

This deal demonstrates that American diplomacy can bring about real and meaningful change, change that makes our country and the world safer and more secure."

Anything spoken by Obama is highly suspicious.

He often speaks in opposites and with hidden meanings.

During that "speech", his demeanor and expressions gave it all away.

Be Extremely Careful with Obama !!!

He Talks DoubleSpeak

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: edmc^2

a prophecy about people saying / crying for "peace and security". And by observation, this seems to be that time.

So, like......
humor me here - I don't understand.
WHEN were there not people saying/crying for "peace and security"? Ever, in the history of man????

Sure there are. In fact I believe in 1986 it was declared as International Year of Peace - but not without any deal like we saw today. Today is marking point where the call for Peace and Security will intensify.

Once it gets to the U.N body, it will be something to behold.

In fact the U.N has been waiting for this for a long time. It's only this President who's willing to make peace possible with Iran - through nuke negotiations.

Peace and security

Peacekeeping is one among a range of activities undertaken by the United Nations to maintain international peace and security throughout the world.

www.un.org...

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

See, the only person you can truly control is yourself. I can do what I can to influence those around me, but they are ultimately in control of themselves.

I can tell my son over and over that the oven is hot or the pot on the stove is hot ... DON'T TOUCH. It burns. But in the end, HE is the one who has to make the decision whether or not he will listen to my wisdom and accept my judgment for himself.

Some kids do, and others don't. I had a cousin who fulfilled the letter of the law; she didn't touch the pot. She kissed it!

So I guess my point with this is that you can talk/type until you're blue in the face and live an otherwise pristine and righteous life, but ultimately the only person you can directly control and be fully responsible for is yourself.