Planned Parenthood Sells Dead Baby Parts

sorry, double post

a reply to: toolgal462 This was a reply to someone I think Benevolent Heretic - not myself. I'm getting confused because of telephone calls and messing up my replies

The pittance that Planned Parenthood receives for the storage, transportation and handling of the tissue does not go to "fund the research". It goes toward the storage, transportation and handling of the tissue. Problem is, the research companies can't do SQUAT without the organs and tissue donated by the public. Is your position that you don't support the whole idea of organ and human tissue donation for research into Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, cancer, etc.?

Nope, that is not my position. My position is merely the truth. And the truth is what it is, however unseemly it might be. PP was started by Sanger, who started it for nefarious reasons (not altruistic ones) and although PP provides a service to many that is wanted/needed I wont pretend that they are in it for anything but the money. They are not in it for the sake of helping women. And no matter how you word it - they are providing body parts to biomedical companies for research - who are also doing it for the money.

That's my position in a nutshell. And I'm still pro-choice.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
It would be so relatively easy to slash the number of abortions each year by education, free contraception, and greater support systems for unwanted children. In fact, it is because I see virtually NONE of those reasonable provisions EVER suggested on the "pro-life" side that I have built the BELIEF that in general, there is no concern for life, there is only concern for CONTROLLING WOMEN and DEVALUING THEIR PERSONAL RIGHTS.

You would think this would be a doable thing, but for some reason...it's just not. Gee wonder what that reason might be? Could it be the same loud people don''t want those things either? And also have no problems sending people to needless wars to get mangled that way, heart, body, and soul?

And yeah. It's all about control.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Gryphon66
It would be so relatively easy to slash the number of abortions each year by education, free contraception, and greater support systems for unwanted children. In fact, it is because I see virtually NONE of those reasonable provisions EVER suggested on the "pro-life" side that I have built the BELIEF that in general, there is no concern for life, there is only concern for CONTROLLING WOMEN and DEVALUING THEIR PERSONAL RIGHTS.

You would think this would be a doable thing, but for some reason...it's just not. Gee wonder what that reason might be? Could it be the same loud people don''t want those things either? And also have no problems sending people to needless wars to get mangled that way, heart, body, and soul?

And yeah. It's all about control.

That's because the same political ideology that is rabidly opposed to abortion is the same one rabidly opposed to public health and social welfare programs.

In my opinion, the noose that they are fabricating for themselves is getting tighter and tighter.

As seen here, despite protestations to the side, a right-wing duck is a duck is a duck ... if you walk like one and quack like one ... to see the same tired anti-choice/winger rhetoric that has been SHOWN to be untrue repeated over and over again is ... well, I think the Latin is ad nauseam.

Also, sorry for my "elitism" in daring to use a Latin PHRASE (ed). You know us socialist/marxist/atheist/communist/progressivist/liberalist/academicist types.

#mygoodnessweneedaneyerollemoticon

originally posted by: Leonidas

originally posted by: toolgal462

originally posted by: Leonidas
It is amazing what people are willing to believe when it feeds into their personal biases and prejudices, no matter how ridiculous and preposterous it is.

I dont know who's worse, the people that didnt think it was a hoax...or the ones that knew it but tried to use it to justify their agenda.

How was it a hoax? PP admits to providing biomed companies with aborted tissue/parts.....What is my agenda? I am pro-choice. Are you going to try and tell me I'm not pro-choice because I refuse to sugarcoat the hard facts?

Exhibit "A", ladies and gentlemen.

Care to elaborate? I made the comment. I think it's pretty clear but you are posting it as "Exhibit "A" - so what are you trying to say? Am I on TRIAL for something? Should I seek legal representation? Geeesh

a reply to: Gryphon66

When's going to be tight enough to stop this hypocritical nonsense though?

(I just used that same word in the thread entitled worthless. Spooky.)

Point of clarification please.

How is THIS quote from Nucatola NOT evidence admitting that Planned Parenthood makes a profit from selling baby body parts? I thought they were a nonprofit:

"And if they [Planned parenthood] can do a little better than break even, and do so in a way that seems reasonable, they’re happy to do that."

Break even = non profit.
Isn't "DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN BREAK EVEN" = Profit?
IRS take note.

NUCATOLA: I think for affiliates, at the end of the day, they’re a non-profit, they just don’t want to — they want to break even. And if they can do a little better than break even, and do so in a way that seems reasonable, they’re happy to do that. Really their bottom line is, they just, they want to break even. Every penny they save is just pennies they give to another patient. To provide a service the patient wouldn’t get otherwise.

-Quote from the OP video.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Isn't "DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN BREAK EVEN" = Profit?

They are a non-profit organization that puts money, recouped from one service, back into the charity. Their year end tax report should show "no profit" that isn't returned to the charity for the purpose of fulfilling its By-laws and Mission Statement. They don't have stock holders or investment speculators to satisfy, like a "for profit" business.

a reply to: windword

She still admitted to making a profit selling the body parts.

a reply to: IAMTAT

She goes onto explain that any surplus will go towards another patient who will receive treatment they wouldn't get otherwise.

These wealthy non-profits have all of their bases covered, don't you know??? When all else fails - they can lump all their fundraising expenses into "education" and the IRS will accept that.

a reply to: toolgal462

You have to love the mental gymnastics involved in this thread.

So they are making a profit.....but not really.

WTF.

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: toolgal462

You have to love the mental gymnastics involved in this thread.

So they are making a profit.....but not really.

WTF.

Couldn't agree with you more. There are some world class gymnasts in this thread.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Its not against the law for a non-profit organization to make money to fulfill their mission statement. Legally, profit would entail an organization as large as Planned Parenthood paying stock holders or speculative investors in dividends, as compared to your neighborhood boy scout troop, who are earning a profit from a "car wash" to pay for a trip.

a reply to: toolgal462

umm kind of like how those self employed businesses manage to buy cars for the wives to drive around in and claim it on their income taxes as a business expense....
how about we give them the same scrutiny that family planning has endured over the past few decades?

there probably isn't a non profit organization out there that has been investigated and scrutinized as much as planned parenthood has, first, if they've been caught doing anything wrong, why is it that charges were never brought? and second, since they know that they are gonna be investigated so often, why on earth would they be so careless as to be involved in a black market in fetal remains?

The salvation army is also a non-profit entity yet they sell donated items for "egads" a profit (shocker).


If people are not railing against them and like organizations for that practice, but are doing so against PP then they are simply being hypocritical.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Every penny they save is just pennies they give to another patient. To provide a service the patient wouldn’t get otherwise.

...give to another patient, not their bank account, not their salary.

a reply to: stosh64

Have you read the transcript I linked you yet?

a reply to: Grimpachi

Then again the Salvation army isn't selling mutilated babies.

I thought the law said NO PROFIT regarding an aborted fetus?

Now it gets twisted to mean that as long as the profit stays in PP, and maybe fills a gap elsewhere and at the end the books are 'even' its ok.

This thread gives me a headache, and makes me want to vomit.

Bye bye

a reply to: Kali74
Yes, and watched the whole uncut video.

originally posted by: toolgal462
Nope, that is not my position. My position is merely the truth. And the truth is what it is, however unseemly it might be.

That doesn't tell me ANYTHING about your position.

I wont pretend that they are in it for anything but the money. They are not in it for the sake of helping women. And no matter how you word it - they are providing body parts to biomedical companies for research - who are also doing it for the money.

So, your position is that Planned Parenthood AND biomedical research companies are "in it for the money"? You believe that PP is a for-profit business, even though they have non-profit status and have never been convicted, even after extensive investigations following previous "sting" videos, made by the same people who made this one?