Planned Parenthood Sells Dead Baby Parts

a reply to: intrptr

At what point does getting all worked up over imagined horrors reflect more on the fear-porn purveyor than the horror?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

And here's a little more on David Daleiden, although I don't expect the "outraged" to let facts get in the way...

Daledein's Been Trying to Bring Planned Parenthood Down for Years

This isn't his first Hoax...

In 2012 while serving as the Research Director for Live Action, David Daleiden participated in a hoax that included a “sting” establishing a fake medical website that raised concern by the California Attorney General.
...
The Center for Medical Progress appears to have been established as a non profit organization by David Daledien, although non profit records have not yet appeared on Guidestar.
...
David Daledien and other affiliates persons appear to have used fake i.d.’s along with the fake LLC to gain entry into private business meetings.

Yeah, it's a Hoax. Done by an experienced fake organization.

Looks like Mr. Daleiden is faking up more websites than the Center for Medical Progress. He faked up a tissue selling website to prove his point! LOL!

Fetal Tissue Donation and Reproductive Health Care

Inaccurate and inflammatory claims made in secret edited video:
The promotional video mischaracterizing Planned Parenthood’s mission and services is made by a long time anti-abortion activist that has used deceptive and unethical video editing, and that has created a fake medical website as well as a fake human tissue website that purports to provide services to stem cell researchers.

After doing some reading on this guy, it seems he's quite the anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, right wing Christian nutjob!

Daleiden used to work for "Live Action", an anti-abortion think tank. They've been working on Planned Parenthood for years, too.

From Oct. 16, 2012 Just before the election Source

On Thursday, one week after the woman believed to be Wilmowski met with Planned Parenthood staffers in Washington, Planned Parenthood organizers sent a letter to the California Attorney General's office asking that Live Action be investigated for its fake medical health website.
...
"The real shame is that this does nothing to help women get the health care they need," Ferrero said. "This is just dirty tricks in the closing weeks of an election, where the stakes on women's health are extremely high. We look at this as, these are the kind of dirty tricks you have to do when you can't win elections based on your ideas."

No kidding! People are being manipulated... No big surprise here.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

After doing some reading on this guy, it seems he's quite the anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, right wing Christian nutjob!

Birds of a feather ...

Go figure. Thanks for the facts BH!

a reply to: intrptr

planned parenthood was already investigated for this in 2000, and well, nothing was found. so well either you believe that you gov't representatives- from both parties- found absolutely nothing, or you believe that they chose to overlook what they did find. and why would they do that?? oh, ya there's big bucks in these industries!!!!
but, I've got to say that planned parenthood is probably one of the most investigated organizations out there. There's much more oversight when it comes to them than there would be if you knocked them out of the game and well managed to prevent women from getting the care from them, or well, totally prevent them from getting that care. Because if you prevent them from legally getting that care then the business will go underground, and that black market that you accusing planned parenthood of being involved in will get one big gigantic boost!

a reply to: boymonkey74

Doctors have been obtaining body parts illegally for ages because bodies are hard to come by.

Remember where that led? They went from digging up fresh corpses to outright killing people to sell? Why not, much easier than digging them up.

Both practices were illegal then, too. People were aghast then, too.

But I get the slippery slope, wonder how many faces on milk cartons wound up in the organ / tissue trade?

According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, roughly 800,000 children are reported missing each year in the United States -- that's roughly 2,000 per day. Of those, there are 115 child "stranger abduction" cases each year, which means the child was taken by an unknown person.

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a reply to: Gryphon66

At what point does getting all worked up over imagined horrors reflect more on the fear-porn purveyor than the horror?

Speaking for those with no voice…

Ask the babies whether their horror is imagined?

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: beezzer Lucky for you, you will never face this decision.

Hi Reldra,

My sister was faced with this decision when she was molested and became pregnant. At the time we didn't understand why she would choose birth over abortion, as anyone would understand the decision not to have it. But she was unshakeable in her decision to carry it to term.

Her simple reason? She chose to give the baby away to a couple desperate to have a child and couldn't. There are millions of people every day desperate for a child.

I've always been pro-choice but now....not so much. To me, life is life. It isn't up to us who deserves to live and die.

Well...gee...

RACIST AND EUGENICIST STATEMENTS
BY MARGARET SANGER, THE FOUNDER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with
social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most
successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal.

We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if
it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."


-- Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255
Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith
Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in
Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth
Control in America . New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

blackquillandink.com...

a reply to: dawnstar

Because if you prevent them from legally getting that care then the business will go underground, and that black market that you accusing planned parenthood of being involved in will get one big gigantic boost!

It sort of already is underground. Real hospitals don't preform abortions, their oath to preserve life gets in the way.

So we have these 'clinics', staffed by clinicians, who take life.

About the underground market, this video isn't fake obviously, and we wouldn't know so much from one 'provider' (as she calls herself), without the candid interview. You can bet they want to keep this kind of thing secret, partial birth abortions to preserve 'healthy tissue' is illegal.

Very embarrassing to the profession, the industry that benefits, and the law makers that look the other way…

i hope this grows and takes hold like the infamous, Manning video of gunships killing journalists in Iraq.

Heres to investigative reporting in the truest sense and all the whistle blowers out there.

a reply to: intrptr

There's a thread on here somewhere discussing chips that can be implanted where medication can be dispensed remotely. Perfect solution. Implant a chip in every newborn, and at puberty start dispensing birth control. Stop dispensing it when the adult can prove they are ready to have children. Perfect way to eliminate ALL unwanted pregnancies. Giving up a little personal freedom is a small price to pay...for the children.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Why don't you send your info to the Washington Times and every major news outlet. Surely, if you can dig up all this info, any journalist worthy of that title should have been able to do the same thing.

Why is it that members of a conspiracy website have to do the heavy lifting.

a reply to: intrptr

The fact that you get off on fantasies of fetal agony only proves my point.

You know that your ghoulish estimates are BS, right? Almost every one of those 800k per year come home safely. I'm sure that doesn't affect your penchant for sharing your best fearporn ...

Yeah. Talk about disgusting.

a reply to: IAMTAT

And Henry Ford was a rampant antiSemite ...

Does that mean that everyone who drives a Mustang hates Jews?

Logic. Get some.

This whole thread from its title onward has been pure *sensationalism.*
With talk about abortion depriving the world of Einstein's, DaVinci's,
Tesla's etc. And NEVER that of the world being deprived of another
Hitler, Pol Pot or Stalin, very selective in the choice of what may be
being lost to the world.

Most terminations take place before 16 weeks mostly at
12 weeks. So all the *sensational* horrific graphic mental
pictures of desecting and grinding etc. are not really applicable >>>>

We are all 'programmed' to seeing babies and mentally presume
that a 3 inch foetus is a tinier version of the babies we see and
know...

At 12 weeks gestation (3months) the foetus is three inches... not
much in the way of organs or limbs to harvest. Up until 8 weeks the
foetus is quite transparent, the epidermis consists of only 2 layers
of basal cells... the epidermal stratifaction occurs at 9/10 weeks,
and it is not until the 4th month that all layers of the epidermis
are developed to close to adult quality.

When a decision has been taken to terminate a foetus, the remains
like any other medical remains need disposal .... trash? or as offered
to everyone burial? cremation? or donation?
It has recently become policy in the UK to ask a new mother to
donate the remaining umbilical cord as it is rich in something
which is used in some transfusions.

With the donation of the foetal tissue it may go some way in
compensating those who think the world may be losing some
genius to mankind.... by the discovery of something of great
medical significance.

In the end women have aborted before it was legal ... often
with dire consequences.
And women will continue to abort if it is ever made illegal again...
with dire consequences.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: reldra

It generates revenue for someone or it would not be facilitated at all. That's Capitalism.

Crony capitalism since public funds go to planned parenthood.

Say what?...

Six Quotes Hint Why Marget Sanger Received “a dozen invitations” to speak at Ku Klux Klan Rallies

Margaret Sanger wrote about her Ku Klux Klan speech in her autobiography, “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan…I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses…I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak…In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose.

A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.” (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)

Most of us, myself included, will live our entire lives and never be invited to speak at a single Ku Klux Klan Rally. And yet, Margaret Sanger, the foundress of Planned Parenthood, received at least 13 such invitations. Would someone from Planned Parenthood please tell us why Margaret Sanger was so in demand on the KKK speaking circuit?

What did Margaret Sanger say in her talk at the KKK Rally in Silver Lake New Jersey that led to twelve more invitations? Well, take a look at some of her past quotes:


1) “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

2) “Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need … We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.”

Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

3) “Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying … demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism … [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant … We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.”

Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on “The Cruelty of Charity,” pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition.

4) “The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

5) “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”

Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

6) “Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.Margaret Sanger. “
The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.” Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

margaretsanger.blogspot.com...

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

And here's a little more on David Daleiden, although I don't expect the "outraged" to let facts get in the way...

Daledein's Been Trying to Bring Planned Parenthood Down for Years

This isn't his first Hoax...

In 2012 while serving as the Research Director for Live Action, David Daleiden participated in a hoax that included a “sting” establishing a fake medical website that raised concern by the California Attorney General.
...
The Center for Medical Progress appears to have been established as a non profit organization by David Daledien, although non profit records have not yet appeared on Guidestar.
...
David Daledien and other affiliates persons appear to have used fake i.d.’s along with the fake LLC to gain entry into private business meetings.

Yeah, it's a Hoax. Done by an experienced fake organization.

Looks like Mr. Daleiden is faking up more websites than the Center for Medical Progress. He faked up a tissue selling website to prove his point! LOL!

Fetal Tissue Donation and Reproductive Health Care

Inaccurate and inflammatory claims made in secret edited video:
The promotional video mischaracterizing Planned Parenthood’s mission and services is made by a long time anti-abortion activist that has used deceptive and unethical video editing, and that has created a fake medical website as well as a fake human tissue website that purports to provide services to stem cell researchers.

After doing some reading on this guy, it seems he's quite the anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, right wing Christian nutjob!

Daleiden used to work for "Live Action", an anti-abortion think tank. They've been working on Planned Parenthood for years, too.

From Oct. 16, 2012 Just before the election Source

On Thursday, one week after the woman believed to be Wilmowski met with Planned Parenthood staffers in Washington, Planned Parenthood organizers sent a letter to the California Attorney General's office asking that Live Action be investigated for its fake medical health website.
...
"The real shame is that this does nothing to help women get the health care they need," Ferrero said. "This is just dirty tricks in the closing weeks of an election, where the stakes on women's health are extremely high. We look at this as, these are the kind of dirty tricks you have to do when you can't win elections based on your ideas."

No kidding! People are being manipulated... No big surprise here.

Why do we need planned parenthood again ?

After all we have the ACA now.

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The pro-killing-of-unborn-babies crowd will just say that they aren't actually "human" parts because an unborn child isn't "human" until it's registered as a democrat.

That's really uncalled for. I don't know any democrat who is actually "pro-abortion".

If what is alleged is true, it is illegal, and the affiliates involved should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Doesn't mean I think all abortions should be banned, but we must follow the laws.

I'm not very nice when it comes to, what I consider, killing of the unborn.

And what are your thoughtsabout babies and kids being brought up in poverty, in abusive families or unwanted in foster homes?

Or does your outrage end at the foetus? Can you not see that sometimes, an abortion is the lesser fo the two evils? And "the girls shouldnt have gotten prgenant in the first place" is not a valid answer

a reply to: intrptr

"Horror", is a very complex emotion. It requires a fully a developed brain, self awareness, a sense of time and the "fear", a mental/psychological reaction to painful memories, of a projected future expectation, things a fetus doesn't posses.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Yeah, it's a Hoax. Done by an experienced fake organization.

Of course they are going to say its a hoax. He did hoax them into believing he was a "legitimate" 'stem cell research organization', complete with fake website, fake IDs and he in fact lied to them. To catch liars sometimes you have to lie. Thats what a sting is all about. You don't think they would have admitted him to their meetings otherwise?

Hi, we're hear to expose your illegal activity and secretly film it, dooya mind?

lulz