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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Asktheanimals

No one can swallow that amount of hyperbole... well, maybe two others.


I personally wish more people would agree to the solution you proposed. Unfortunately when I looked for links to add to my last post, I found far more than I wanted to believe was possible. This subject is picking up steam and if people don't start trying to extinguish it, it may very well reach the point Asktheanimals is projecting. I pray it doesn't but my search uncovered a disturbingly large number of links.




posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Echo chamber party of three, your table is ready!



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: Khaleesi

I wouldn't worry. The attention span of the average american is short. These loons that want to push this "banning" garbage will find a new cause pretty soon.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: Khaleesi

If legislation is introduced anywhere in this country restricting or banning private use it would cause huge protest and I'd be protesting it too.
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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: beezzer

Didn't he say "If you like your flag you can keep your flag"?



I'm curious about something.

I was wondering how this ban would pass Constitutional muster.

If the people themselves, voted for the ban, then would the ban pass the Constitutional test?



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: introvert

a reply to: Kali74

I can only hope you are right and appreciate your stance on free speech. My problem is that I was truly shocked by the number of links I found when I did a search. I really hope you are right introvert but people can be like pit bulls at times. For once in my life I am praying for people to have short attention spans.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: beezzer

Didn't he say "If you like your flag you can keep your flag"?



I'm curious about something.

I was wondering how this ban would pass Constitutional muster.

If the people themselves, voted for the ban, then would the ban pass the Constitutional test?


It couldn't.

First it's a first amendment violation.

Second it's a 14th amendment violation.

However constitutional violations don't seem to matter very much. See 'free speech' zones, and 'gun free zones', and the 'right' to privacy see the NSA spying.

A ban is entirely plausible, and likely for the CF.
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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: beezzer



I was wondering how this ban would pass Constitutional muster.

If the people themselves, voted for the ban, then would the ban pass the Constitutional test?


I doubt it will ever be brought to the courts as it's not a ban. The case would have to be made that some sort of right was violated, and no such thing has occurred.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Khaleesi



I really hope you are right introvert but people can be like pit bulls at times. For once in my life I am praying for people to have short attention spans.


Me too. This issue is already boring and a waste of time. I can't believe we have to argue about it.

The people wanted to take it down, so be it. If the people want to fly it, so be it.

Let people be free and move on.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: neo96

The freedoms and inalienable rights we all have are just as free to give away as they are to keep.

Just look at the gun laws we accept.
Look at the rights of people who were in prison. They can't vote, own a gun.


Our rights are supposed to be guaranteed, but they aren't.

So I think it plausable that "the people" could vote to ban something. Their representatives already have.

And people cheered when they did it.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: Khaleesi

I'm saying right here this isn't going to just run out of inertia and stop.
It's a wedge issue, much like abortion was 20 -30 years ago.
When they see a crack they can't stop digging to try and open it up.
It's the nature of politics.
You don't abandon what's working.
I would add this makes a great diversion from whatever else the government may be up to:
Jade Helm, TPP, Fast track authority, etc.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: neo96

The freedoms and inalienable rights we all have are just as free to give away as they are to keep.

Just look at the gun laws we accept.
Look at the rights of people who were in prison. They can't vote, own a gun.


Our rights are supposed to be guaranteed, but they aren't.

So I think it plausable that "the people" could vote to ban something. Their representatives already have.

And people cheered when they did it.


You know what they call people who accept that stuff?

SLAVES.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: neo96

The freedoms and inalienable rights we all have are just as free to give away as they are to keep.

Just look at the gun laws we accept.
Look at the rights of people who were in prison. They can't vote, own a gun.


Our rights are supposed to be guaranteed, but they aren't.

So I think it plausable that "the people" could vote to ban something. Their representatives already have.

And people cheered when they did it.


You know what they call people who accept that stuff?

SLAVES.


Yeah, but people can still vote what color they want their chains to be.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: beezzer




Yeah, but people can still vote what color they want their chains to be.


Yep. Red,white, and blue is en vogue.

white,blue, and orange is soooo passe.
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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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And so begins the pity party........

I forgot to bring my box of Mao-approved commie kleenex.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
And so begins the pity party........

I forgot to bring my box of Mao-approved commie kleenex.


Just ban a box, it'll make everyone want them, then you can tweet a hashtag about how outraged you are.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Even if won by majority vote in a referendum, it would be challenged in Court and lose... SCOTUS has already ruled on this particular issue, it is specifically unconstitutional to ban displaying a flag or destroying one. It would take a judge all of five minutes and one willing person to file the suit (I think we can all agree there would be no shortage of willing people) and it would be tossed out on it's ass as fitting.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Even if won by majority vote in a referendum, it would be challenged in Court and lose... SCOTUS has already ruled on this particular issue, it is specifically unconstitutional to ban displaying a flag or destroying one. It would take a judge all of five minutes and one willing person to file the suit (I think we can all agree there would be no shortage of willing people) and it would be tossed out on it's ass as fitting.


But no-one can fly the confederate flag where it was in SC any longer.

try putting one up where it was.

You can't.

because flying that flag has been banned.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Fly it there? Like put a pole up and raise the rebel flag? Is it just the rebel flag I can't do that with, I wonder? Because I'm pretty sure I'd get arrested for vandalism if I put a flag pole in the ground at the SC Capitol, even if it was an American flag I was trying to raise.

But you can have a rebel flag on your person and stand there if you want to.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Your words. . .

it is specifically unconstitutional to ban displaying a flag or destroying one.

Yet that is what they have done.




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