NRA gets in on US Govt act - tells Aussies what to do.....

the NRA's message to Australia

In an article entitled Australia: There Will be Blood, the National Rifle Association in the US has launched an attack on Australia's gun laws in the latest edition of its most militant gun rights publication, America's First Freedom.

The article claims there is a "growing consensus" in Australia that the gun buy-back and ban on semi-automatic weapons introduced after the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 had failed to make the nation safer.

"The Australian people paid a massive price in liberty. Their reward? At best, an unexamined resolution that things were somehow better now," says the article.

and what is this "growing consensus?

it is an (ie ONE) article from 2005 (that would be TEN YEARS AGO) saying that there hadn't been a lot of study of the effects of the gun buy back. there's a link to it in the article I have linked to.

so it is:
1/ not growing
2/ not a consensus
3/ doesn't say the nation hasn't been made any safer

so not only do we have het US Govt invading people and telling they gotta be dem'cratic.....we have the NRA saying they can't be dem'cratic unless they got lotsaguns!

What is it with the US telling people what to do? Y'all can't even tell y'selves what to do without shooting each other - piss off the lot of you - close down your borders and shoot yourselves all you want - leave decent people (even aussies!) alone!!

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Why do they care?

That gun control measure over there was voted on as well wasn't it?

Anyone in Australia an get a rifle as long as they dont have a criminal record and they join a gun club or have a letter from a property owner saying that they need the gun for removal of feral pests.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Why do they care?

That gun control measure over there was voted on as well wasn't it?

Yeah, and voting is so legitimate and non-corrupt. Let's see some action in Canada, I'd have no problem with CC licences, just have to make sure there's adequate training and psycho tests. I carried for years.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

First off the US is not a democracy and if Australia wants to willingly hand over rights to a government I bet most of them don't trust.......So be it.



NRA worry about your own backyard the grass is growing faster than you can cut it. If foreign people want tyranny and government nanny states......Let them deal with it.......

The NRA has corporate gun masters to answer to. The US market is pretty saturated so they need to expand outside the US. The US does have legit 2nd Amendment non profit groups but, the NRA is not one of them.

originally posted by: MrSpad
The NRA has corporate gun masters to answer to. The US market is pretty saturated so they need to expand outside the US. The US does have legit 2nd Amendment non profit groups but, the NRA is not one of them.

Hmm......I bet you are right. Good job looking at the angles poster.

Gun 'buy' backs are idiotic.

First that money comes from TAXES.

Second guns cost hundreds of dollars and are sold back for usually less than 50 bucks.

Easy to see why people are poor.

"This is the gun-control regime that our president applauds for its decisive resolve. It robbed Australians of their right to self-defence and empowered criminals, all without delivering the promised reduction in violent crime," it says.

Remember the recent Sydney shootings. I say that is pretty much on the money.

Self defense today means dialing 9-11 and wait for the po po to come 'save' you.

a reply to: neo96

the Australians raised their medical levy from 1.5% to 1.7% for 1 year to pay for it.

Guns were bought for their retail price from just before the buy back.

there is also no reason why you can't have a privately funded buy-back, and there have been several such in het USA.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

just have to make sure there's adequate training and psycho tests

Could you provide examples of what you would consider adequate?

originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

First off the US is not a democracy ......

...

didn't say it is - just said that it is what America is telling everyone else to be - and now the NRA is saying it can't be a real one without lotsaguins.

Yes there's plenty to roll your eyes at in all that - that is the point!!

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

the Australians raised their medical levy from 1.5% to 1.7% for 1 year to pay for it.

Like I said TAXES.

So use medical taxes to buy guns!!!

That is just priceless.

a reply to: neo96

it was also effective and short term and largely agreed to.

and, as I said - you are perfectly free to run privately funded buy backs in the USA. Taxation is NOT a pre-requisite.

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

- you are perfectly free to run privately funded buy backs in the USA

We already have those they are called gun shows.

Turns out the anti gunners don't like that too much.

They don't like the NRA too much even though they created it in the first place with gun control.

Hell that is how all lobbying gets created.

Go after something create the 'NRA's'

And to think there wouldn't even be an NRA had the anti gun crowd left guns alone.

S

originally posted by: neo96
Gun 'buy' backs are idiotic.

First that money comes from TAXES.

Second guns cost hundreds of dollars and are sold back for usually less than 50 bucks.

Easy to see why people are poor.

LOL,

Sometimes. Some gun buybacks have been $100 Visa cards around here.

Everyone I know takes their broken junk .22s and get a card to buy a new one


If you have a broken or non-operational firearm, hold onto it until there is a buyback... LOL

a reply to: infolurker

Well if a gun is broken then it's not a threat to anyone.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: infolurker

Well if a gun is broken then it's not a threat to anyone.

Exactly, if it is broken, what good is it?

Take it to a gun turn it in and swap if for a Visa card and get a new one that works.

originally posted by: neo96
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We already have those they are called gun shows.

Only in your febrile imagination.

for the rest of the world they are called gun buy back and gun buy back and gun buy back.

but thanks for stopping buy to illustrate your point....and mine!

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Try again.

Gun shows are private buy backs.

Done with private money.

Not the state trying to disarm the populace.