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Raise Your Hand If You Think All Chemtrails are Contrails

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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: Starling

I don't suppose you could source that article. I'd like to read it.


edit on 7/13/2015 by Phage because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 12:31 AM
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originally posted by: Starling
Extrozero, you're trying too hard.
Take a rest.
We need new arguments, not the old ones, over and over again.
You need to change the formula.
Your formula of denial of the obvious is too similar to the 9-11 denial formula.

And anyway, it has already been revealed that "cloud seeding", (as they are now calling it, to soften the landing on the sheeples' ears), has recently been revealed in the mass media forums.
Chemtrails is real and happening in our skies.

Too late to deny!


Cloud seeding is very localized, and does not seem to work much otherwise California would not be running out of water. What we are talking about is a world wide event over everyone's house on a daily bases...

BTW once a person starts to use the term sheeple as their argument then it basically means they have little more to offer. What is your expertise to make your statements? I been in the aviation business for 35 years so I'll go with my experiences over yours.

BTW what are they dumping, why can't we test samples? Please just explain this one aspect of my total post.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: Starling

Is the MSM the go to for such information, is it?

Can you post a source?

I posted a thread 6 years ago about cloud seeding in Tasmania

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 01:20 AM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I have never seen a chemtrail, though I have taken many hundreds of photos of contrails.

But moreover, I know of no reason why chemtrails - if they existed - would be visible from the ground, let alone replicate exactly the appearance and behaviour of dihydrogen monoxide crystals.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 02:05 AM
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I don't know if chem-trails are real or imagined. Often times where there is smoke there is fire and the fact is I don't put it past the evil bastards that run our governments and our world. I will remain open minded.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 04:38 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
I don't know if chem-trails are real or imagined. Often times where there is smoke there is fire and the fact is I don't put it past the evil bastards that run our governments and our world. I will remain open minded.


It's not smoke, it's ice crystals. Just some people would prefer to think it's aluminium/barium/strontium for reasons best known to themselves



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
I don't know if chem-trails are real or imagined. Often times where there is smoke there is fire and the fact is I don't put it past the evil bastards that run our governments and our world. I will remain open minded.

It would literally take tens of thousands of people to keep their mouth shut daily. Airlines pay well, but not that well.

Basically imagine 9-11 was really caused by the government, every day, with tens of thousands in the know. Then ask yourself realistically how likely that is.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The photos shown in your response to me does not show the area in which those planes are flying, but appear to be wartime. Any reasonable person would expect heavy use of warplanes at wartime and chemtrails/comtrails.

Being in the flight path of VAFB and several international airports, I can say in my lifetime I see more comtrails than I ever have. We are not at war...or are we?




posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 06:20 AM
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originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The photos shown in your response to me does not show the area in which those planes are flying, but appear to be wartime. Any reasonable person would expect heavy use of warplanes at wartime and chemtrails/comtrails.

Being in the flight path of VAFB and several international airports, I can say in my lifetime I see more comtrails than I ever have. We are not at war...or are we?



You don't think there may be more flights now than there ever have?



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: mrthumpy

I think there are more TEST flights than before.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: mrthumpy

I think there are more TEST flights than before.


But there couldn't possibly be any more commercial flights of course. That would be ridiculous.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 06:57 AM
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Weather modification and cloud-seeding is nothing new, and is factual.

www.weathermodification.com...
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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 06:57 AM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree

I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life, they just began in the last 10 to 15 years with regularity.

If they were all normal then they would have been around all my life.


I am 57 (next month) and have seen these all my life. In fact I distinctly remember being fascinated about how long they lasted and playing a game with myself in my parents garden. I would lie on my back and see if "I could win" by observing a contrail that lasted from horizon to horizon. Most didn't, for obvious reasons, but occasionally on some days they would. NB all contrails on the same day ie weather related DUH!

They are all normal they have been around all my life.

Oh and here's a little extra info. Those contrails would be over Yorkshire so it kind of makes it difficult to put some US secret agency spin on this.......



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: AndyMayhew
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I have never seen a chemtrail, though I have taken many hundreds of photos of contrails.

But moreover, I know of no reason why chemtrails - if they existed - would be visible from the ground, let alone replicate exactly the appearance and behaviour of dihydrogen monoxide crystals.


What a wicked tease.......



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: Kromlech
Weather modification and cloud-seeding is nothing new, and is factual.

www.weathermodification.com...


Yes and yes. Your point?



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
but anyone that doesn't think chemtrails exist just because they haven't published verifiable information for public consumption is delusional. There is no way you will ever convince me otherwise.


Yes, and this is the main problem with chemtrail believers. When you show them undisputed, peer reviewed science, they disregard it as lies. But will believe someone who shows them pictures of balast test rigs and claims they are spray planes.

It's OK to lie, as long as you say what they want to hear.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Kromlech
Weather modification and cloud-seeding is nothing new, and is factual.

www.weathermodification.com...


Yes and yes. Your point?


In reference to naive people who think the sky isn't being sprayed. When clearly in fact it is...


The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide, potassium iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide


en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Kromlech
Weather modification and cloud-seeding is nothing new, and is factual.

www.weathermodification.com...


Yes and yes. Your point?


In reference to naive people who think the sky isn't being sprayed. When clearly in fact it is...


The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide, potassium iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide


en.wikipedia.org...


Oh I see. Nothing to do with big white lines across the sky six miles up, you just wanted to make the point that it's possible to spray stuff from planes.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:46 AM
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originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Kromlech
Weather modification and cloud-seeding is nothing new, and is factual.

www.weathermodification.com...


Yes and yes. Your point?


In reference to naive people who think the sky isn't being sprayed. When clearly in fact it is...


The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide, potassium iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide


en.wikipedia.org...


I think there should be a test in order to post on this topic. I'd bet at least a few people would drop the chemtrail fantasy if they were properly educated about cloud seeding.

Please, as you "look up", also try to look up (in a book or online) a few facts about cloud seeding. Like what altitude it's done at, and if a cloud must be present for it to work. Then, after that exhausting 5 minutes, you can venture into contrail formation. I like the term "what is a contrail " and put that right in the google. You can find that contrails form at or above 25,000 feet and have nothing at all to do with cloud seeding.



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
......You might as well be that charlie brown character with the wah wah wah voice. If somebody wants to convince me it will take much more than the normal shill troll disinfo agents to change my opinion.




LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...i present to you:


Ignorance at its finest. You win OP. Revel in your ignorance. Let the rest of us do the thinking. Thinking is HARD isnt it?




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