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Training evangelical pastors to be politicians

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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

(although I know I'm wasting my virtual breath)

Name them. Who are the Republican Progressives?

Also, define what you mean by Progressive.

You've proven that your beliefs have nothing to do with the actual Progressive Caucus, so you're going to have to be specific and define your terms and provide examples.

That is, if you want to go beyond the normal Alinskyean tactics.




posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

You know what just occurred to me, beez? You and I could swap houses for a year.

I live in Kansas - we have a Dominionist governor. You could come here and have real life experience of what it's like to live in a state run by a Theocrat-at-heart.

You live in Oregon. It's very progressive, and I want to live there. I could have real life experience of what it's like to live in a beautiful place, with mountains AND the ocean, and then we could swap stories.

Seems like a good trade, eh?
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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66



Name them. Who are the Republican Progressives?

Also, define what you mean by Progressive.

I'd like to see his responses to those questions, too.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I have allergies. The corn would damage my sinuses.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm only one voter. It's not like I live in Chicago and can vote several times.

Your beef is with the voters that would elect these people.

If the majority votes them in, then that would indicate that the majority agreed with what the politician is selling.

You do still want free elections, don't you?


Oh puhleez ...

You're only one voter?

Forget Chicago, just buy the voting machine companies and then you can save time.

My "beef" is with you on this specific topic claming that the "radical pastors" in the OP are "just Christians who want to be involved."

So, it's okay with you to vote in those whose stated goal is to ignore the Constitution?

If the majority wants to do away with our Constitution, that's okay with you?

You're in favor of the tyranny of the majority then?

Good to know.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

weak. Get some Benadryl.

This state is THE state that has "tried on" the Theocrat suit. And my house, by the way, is not in a corn-field (that's Nebraska and Iowa, mostly). My house is a mile south of the Missouri river, in a very hilly, forested, area. We are really nice folks. Our Governor is a tool.

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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm only one voter. It's not like I live in Chicago and can vote several times.

Your beef is with the voters that would elect these people.

If the majority votes them in, then that would indicate that the majority agreed with what the politician is selling.

You do still want free elections, don't you?


Oh puhleez ...

You're only one voter?

Forget Chicago, just buy the voting machine companies and then you can save time.

My "beef" is with you on this specific topic claming that the "radical pastors" in the OP are "just Christians who want to be involved."

So, it's okay with you to vote in those whose stated goal is to ignore the Constitution?

If the majority wants to do away with our Constitution, that's okay with you?

You're in favor of the tyranny of the majority then?

Good to know.


*ouch*

Don't blame me for a majority of voters.

If the majority wants them, then the majority will get them.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: beezzer

weak. Get some Benadryl.

This state is THE state that has "tried on" the Theocrat suit. And my house, by the way, is not in a corn-field (that's Nebraska and Iowa, mostly). My house is a mile south of the Missouri river, in a very hilly, forested, area. We are really nice folks. Our Governor is a tool.


hahahahahahahaha

I'm allergic to benedryl.

We are all at the mercy of the "election".

The voters ultimately decide.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

That's true. The voters hopefully will decide.
But then we have the "Electoral College" to deal with.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: beezzer

That's true. The voters hopefully will decide.
But then we have the "Electoral College" to deal with.



Just for presidential elections.

And Hillary has that sewn up.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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that last dominist administration in the white house was bush II and well, sorry, I don't see using lies as a justification to bomb innocent countries and talking over them as being that christian!
the idea that the end justifies the means no matter how immoral those means are, well, sorry but that's a very bad example of christianity.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I thought you were a Sanders guy!!

Never give up the fight, my friend.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I'm not blaming you, it's just good to know where you stand.

You're for tyranny.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: beezzer

I thought you were a Sanders guy!!

Never give up the fight, my friend.


Oh I'm voting for Sanders just to vote against Hillary. I feel it's that important.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: beezzer

I'm not blaming you, it's just good to know where you stand.

You're for tyranny.


I'm for free and open elections and letting the voters decide.

If you're opposed to my position, well, if the shoe fits. . . . . .



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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Oh oh - and, are you allergic to the fact that we who live in Kansas can ALL conceal-carry guns now? We can open carry, too! In my county (the tiniest one) you have to leave your gun in the car if there's a sign on the door of the business that says "no guns allowed".

But you CAN'T buy alcohol before noon on Sundays, though - or at ALL on Christmas, Easter, or Thanksgiving. In some counties, not at all, ever.
Cig taxes are going through the roof. Schools are underfunded. And lots and lots of other problems.

If you really want to investigate what it would be like to have a Dominionist in charge where you live, do some research on the recent debacles of our state's well-being. Brownback. Sam Brownback. Dominionist. Governor. Mess.



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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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Oh I'm voting for Sanders just to vote against Hillary. I feel it's that important.


I'm voting for him because I agree with his platform - and I can't stand the thought of Hillary, either.
It IS important.

But you never answered my question: What freedoms have you, personally, LOST in the last 14 years?



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Letting the voters decide for tyranny is okay with you?

So, "the voters" Amend the Constitution to repeal the 2nd Amendment?

Hmmm ... not only for tyranny but also against the Constitution (and a fibber to boot).

I'm opposed to tyranny and for the Constitution.



LOL, your "position" changes depending on which way you're hopping.

You're hopping toward Christian Theocracy today.

/shrug We'll wait and see where you are tomorrow.
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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: beezzer

Oh oh - and, are you allergic to the fact that we who live in Kansas can ALL conceal-carry guns now? We can open carry, too - in my county (the tiniest one) - unless there's a sign on the door of the business that says "no guns allowed". No alcohol before noon on Sundays, though - or at ALL on Christmas, Easter, or Thanksgiving.



No booze before noon?

The Bloody Mary's are screaming in protest!

Oregon's got some funky gun laws, but I don't own any so no worry.




posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: derfreebie


Rather than insinuate drift, I consider the SCOTUS more than qualified by
precedent already to take away all our protections without firing a shot.

I'm not understanding what you're trying to point out.

What have you lost?


For a brief and small handful of examples as a direct result of just
the Congress PASSING the ACA, my job (from my employer meeting
the head cap), home, and credit rating. Off topic albeit; I'm not
even as concerned over the discussion here about ideology as much
as representation.

As much as the Founders subscribed to the existence of a
Supreme Being-- and the regularly argued probability that our
Constitution is based on Biblical laws and later the Common Law:
I find it worrisome that argument of a moral compass carried around
by one group is heavier than another's.

Where that grey area between the definition of a religious caliphate
and a theocracy is encountered: I wait for the other shoe to drop.
Religious freedom at least to me shouldn't be disqualification for one's
beliefs, unless they restrict another's rights.

I mean in short, even an atheist should be able to be elected POTUS.
Whether or not his personal belief system would allow hitting the red
button easier is up to the conscience of the voter, not the law.
I have to get some Belgian eared slippers out of the dryer before they
smoke.
(note to Bunny-- and long may your opinion fluff out)




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