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4000 years of history wiped out by five SCOTUS Judges

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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

So I need to learn to cherry pick, gotcha.

I will agree that the NT isn't as bad, just when and who the OT applies to has always confused me when it comes to christian as they seem to go back and forth on when it does and does not apply.



only for abd by those nations before Israel and for Israel.


Not sure what this means, if the abd is just a typo then I understand but it is what is throwing me off.




posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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I think that Gay, homosexual, same sex 'marriage' or 'unions' would be OK...


but the 'marriage/union' has to be a Platonic one... there can be no Fornication nor Buggery going on as those practices are Abominations (the exact act that will be performed at the 'Holy Place' by the Anti-Christ when the AC + False Prophet set up the Abomination-of-Desolation (in the middle of the 70th week)



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
But find historical documentation that shows marriage between sexes before the 20th century and I will read on and reply.


Yeah, you won't respond to this, either...

Same-sex Marriage in Pre-Modern Europe


The priest shall say:

Forasmuch as Thou, O Lord and Ruler, art merciful and
loving, who didst establish humankind after thine image and
likeness, who didst deem it meet that thy holy apostles
Philip and Bartholomew be united, bound one unto the other
not by nature but by faith and the spirit.
As Thou didst
find thy holy martyrs Serge and Bacchus worthy to be united
together [adelphoi genesthai], bless also these thy
servants, N. and N., joined together not by the bond of
nature but by faith and in the mode of the spirit [ou
desmoumenous desmi physeis alla pisteis kai pneumatikos
tropi], granting unto them peace [eirene] and love [agape]
and oneness of mind. Cleanse from their hearts every stain
and impurity and vouchsafe unto them to love one other [to
agapan allelous] without hatred and without scandal all the
days of their lives, with the aid of the Mother of God and
all thy saints, forasmuch as all glory is thine.


The Forgotten History of Gay Marriage



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: St Udio

Good luck with that. We're sexual creatures, you're asking for the impossible here. To not have sex is to go against our nature.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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Is it me or has a load of time travelers from the past recently popped up and discovered the internet?.
Do people not know it is 2015?.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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It seems that many people want to invoke religion when it suits them. What about neither a lender nor a borrower be? How many bank accounts we got going on here?
Thou shalt not kill, death sentence on that particular faux pas then.
Honour thy father and mother, hmmm, hope no one here became something their parents didn't want them to be.
It is all interpretation of course.
Here is a big one, that should have been in the bible, but wasn't. Live and let live.
Oh hold on, wasn't there something about turning the other cheek?



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

eight pages of denial and still not one fact of "same sex marriage" in the past.

So many intellectually dishonest people on ATS , it is unbelievable !

Distortions, ridicule and lies is all I can see here.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
Is it me or has a load of time travelers from the past recently popped up and discovered the internet?.
Do people not know it is 2015?.


Don't remind me.

Women can now vote for heaven's sake!



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

I could honestly not care less. It has absolutely no bearing on 21st century society.

It in no way is a reflection of humans as we are today.

And therefore does not matter.

-Tenth



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: kitzik

www.gaychristian101.com...

I think this is the same information?

io9.com...



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: kitzik

But you offer little proof of your own claims.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I know and then they wore trousers!!.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
The oldest Codex of Law is the Hammurabi Code of law written about 600 years before the of Moses.

It would also seem under the Hammurabi Code of Laws that marriage was between a man and a woman. we can see this in the fact that no marriage between same sex was mentioned and wife is always presented as a her which is a female of the species. Her and Him are gneder specifics of the law. These laws were also copied by the Quran and the Hadiths


eawc.evansville.edu...
129. If a man's wife be caught lying with another, they shall be strangled and cast into the water. If the wife's husband would save his wife, the king can save his servant.

130. If a man has ravished another's betrothed wife, who is a virgin, while still living in her father's house, and has been caught in the act, that man shall be put to death; the woman shall go free.

131. If a man's wife has been accused by her husband, and has not been caught lying with another, she shall swear her innocence, and return to her house.

132. If a man's wife has the finger pointed at her on account of another, but has not been caught lying with him, for her husband's sake she shall plunge into the sacred river.



Where does it talk about marriage? All I see are the words Husband and Wife - you are assuming marriage and the male and female part.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: beezzer

I know and then they wore trousers!!.


Harlots!

Next thing you'll see is women at a golf course or a drinking establishment.

Of course I jest, things will never devolve that far.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: St Udio



Sorry not sorry, no one will shame us into having or not having sex.. people have sex and you don't have to be involved..

If people spent more time not focusing on what other people do maybe focused on themselves the world would be slightly better



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

So "only for and by those nations before Israel and for Israel."

What scriptures would that be?



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: kitzik

Still eight pages later, and the topic is still an ideal



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: St Udio

Good luck with that. We're sexual creatures, you're asking for the impossible here. To not have sex is to go against our nature.



I would agree 'we' are Social creatures who engage in sex... just like the monkeys, chimps on many a Zoo 'island' to entertain humans who have evolved a morality of sorts--- to not frolic indiscriminately with family members or same sex members
...as the un-intelligent/immoral monkeys are sometime prone to do because they have not developed a code of morality/health /safety as yet


 

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BUT ...the PC society acts as if humans adopting the sex behavior codes of lesser animals is a great leap forward... WOW....just Wow
edit on th31143657220210502015 by St Udio because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Darth_Prime

As I said it is modern distorted interpretation. I can believe that those early Christian martyrs were homosexuals, but from this to say that this "marriage" was sanctioned by Church is a lie. There wasn't marriage by Roman law, since there wasn't Roman "same sex marriage" laws and there wasn't ever sanctioned by Christian Church union of homosexuals.



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