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originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ketsuko
It has to do with gender specific language, pretty simple.
Zero to do with your personal life.
Oh, but it has plenty to do with it. Legally, my personal status is being changed to strip me of the "outdated gender roles" I would rather keep.
How are you being stripped of your chosen gender role? You can still make sammiches for your man, clean toilets and do laundry in your frilly apron, while Hubbie brings home the bacon and watches Monday Night Football!
Anyone can assume gender roles if they so desire, but filling out a government form or document shouldn't relegate anyone to such limited titles.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96
Ya we were missing your standard rant about banks guns and the rich that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Thanks for staying consistent .
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ketsuko
Victim card much?
If your personal status is so flimsy that what it says on a piece of paper can changeit then I think there is an outside issue.
It's just words at the end of the day right?
This is just about legal language, get over your self.
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: ketsuko
Nobody is "stripping" anything from you. Most legal documents ALREADY include the word "Spouse".
Look over your mortgage. Does it say "wife" on it?
Look at your car note. Does it say "Wife" on it?
Jesus. Stop making an issue where there isn't one. This is 100% about removing possible legal loopholes and 0% about the "gay agenda's war on christians"
originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: Kromlech
Makes sense to me. Language can be very important in interpreting the law and therefore needs to be updated from time to time to better encompass its purpose.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ketsuko
For the IRS or your insurance company to refer to as "spouse" instead of wife doesn't take away from the fact that you are, indeed, someone's wife. But, you are also a spouse, are you not?
It's not like you're being referred to as something that you're not. You are a spouse and your husband and loved ones know that you're much, much more too! Do you really need a cold, non-human government agency to affirm that for you?
Tell me, what do they say, then?
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: ketsuko
Nobody is "stripping" anything from you. Most legal documents ALREADY include the word "Spouse".
Look over your mortgage. Does it say "wife" on it?
Look at your car note. Does it say "Wife" on it?
Jesus. Stop making an issue where there isn't one. This is 100% about removing possible legal loopholes and 0% about the "gay agenda's war on christians"
They don't say spouse.
originally posted by: Answer
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Answer
i don't know....but i agree with him. We got bigger fish to fry.
I, personally, love fried fish.
Damn it, now I want catfish.
I guess I know what's for lunch.
originally posted by: ketsuko
I am sick and tired of PC language everywhere, and I do not want to be gender neutralized just because we legalized gay marriage.
Please, I know you're smarter than this. This isn't about "newspeak" or any other orwellian dystopia nightmare. It's about closing a possible legal loophole that you KNOW for a fact lawyers would use in the future to swing a case if the language stays the way it is.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Indigo5
It's not the 1800's.
No, it isn't. It seems to be 1984, however.
When same-sex marriage was legalized in Canada in 2005, parenting was immediately redefined. Canada’s gay marriage law, Bill C-38, included a provision to erase the term “natural parent” and replace it across the board with gender-neutral “legal parent” in federal law. Now all children only have “legal parents,” as defined by the state. By legally erasing biological parenthood in this way, the state ignores children’s foremost right: their immutable, intrinsic yearning to know and be raised by their own biological parents.