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President: Do we want another robot or someone who speaks their mind?

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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MrSpad

I really think Trump knows all of that.

I mean lets be real, he's a billionaire. Do you think he's never had his hand in back-door politics?

People thought Dubya Bush was an idiot. Funny how his speeches and actions as a president reflect that while his speeches and actions as just a Governor of Texas reflect the exact opposite.

Trump may look foolish to many, but he knows exactly what he's doing.

I don't think George Jr. knew what he was doing. I wasn't fond of his father's politics, but HW was competent. It is out of the realm of even imagination that Trump could be President.




posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: reldra

So REELZ picked it up right away, hmm. Bet it gets higher ratings than last years 5.5 points simply because of controversy alone.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: reldra

If you think Dubya was really incompetent I suggest you look into his political career prior to his presidency, he's far from the simpleton he played for 8 years.

* PS - H-dub only won ONE election, competent my ass, he was better as intelligence.
this one went over well in re-election times

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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 07:58 AM
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I don't agree with much he says or even like his personality but it is refreshing to see a candidate actually giving his opinion on REAL problems that are directly effecting this country that every other candidate tap dances around or won't even address.
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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MrSpad

I really think Trump knows all of that.

I mean lets be real, he's a billionaire. Do you think he's never had his hand in back-door politics?

People thought Dubya Bush was an idiot. Funny how his speeches and actions as a president reflect that while his speeches and actions as just a Governor of Texas reflect the exact opposite.

Trump may look foolish to many, but he knows exactly what he's doing.


I do not think Trump has any idea what he is doing. Clearly this is not an honest attempt to run for President. More likely it was his normal PR attempt to get attention and then drop out before his vanity project the Apprentice. And as has happened before he spoke without thinking. Now his show is gone so what is the point. He complains about illegals, forgetting his own history of hiring them, he complains about send work to China and Mexico and forgets that is where he has his clothing line made. Simple details seem beyond him. The never ending lawsuits against him, the bailouts and bankruptcies seem to make anything he claims about being a great business man seem silly. If you father handed you a fortune and very successful company I am sure you would have done as well as and more likely better than he has.

Trump has dug himself a hole. He is not getting elected, he has insulted a group in the US that has over a trillion in spending every year. He has no idea what he is doing. I wonder in fact if he may not be suffering from dementia or something along those lines. Now likely he will be gone soon into the primaries but if he is not the GOP has to consider kicking him from the party. Or else they will lose everything with him as the face of the party.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: AbstractDreamz

Truthfully, American voters want a robot. Or more accurately, someone who kisses up to us & reaffirms our beliefs. We're not conditioned to accept compromise or to be forgiving of our opponents, and we refuse to support candidates who speak against our priorities.

The only way I could see a candidate appealing to a majority of voters while openly speaking their mind is if they were already a famous celebrity. Actually, I could see a group of 20 or 30 famous celebrities forming their own political party & running as a unit. They could do slick Hollywood marketing campaigns focused on them purging DC & actually making America better.

I'd imagine something like Jennifer Lawrence running for President, Al Pacino as Vice President (aka the Cheney type underboss), Brad Pitt as Secretary of State, Ronda Rousey as Secretary of Homeland Defense, Jay Z or Lil Wayne as Attorney General (lol), Chuck Norris as Secretary of Defense, Michio Kaku as Secretary of Education, Mark Cuban as Secretary of Commerce, Oprah as the head of the IRS, etc. They could speak their minds freely because we're used to hearing their opinions anyway. But a normal politician? Nope.
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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad

He's doing it pretty well though. I don't think for a second that people like him don't make calculated moves without knowing every expansible option.

When he tells Univision he is closing all of his factories in Mexico, I think the Latino population may get a sudden love for him due to Spanish television saying how great he is.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: AbstractDreamz

You make it sound like the President is in control.That changes every election....and the Perez is controlled by tptb v
who really run things.

A couple years in office and out again. Our Perez has very little per....but the gov keeps running the same before and after his terms.

Robot....just the way it is.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 11:55 AM
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In my opinion, I think the biggest statement we could make is to not vote. If no votes were casted, then that would show we are fed up with the "choose the lesser of 2 evils" option. But, we have the die-hard republicans and democrats that continue to destroy the country because they blindly follow their party. Just a thought



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: amicktd
In my opinion, I think the biggest statement we could make is to not vote. If no votes were casted, then that would show we are fed up with the "choose the lesser of 2 evils" option. But, we have the die-hard republicans and democrats that continue to destroy the country because they blindly follow their party. Just a thought


Again, it is a good idea in theory, but there are too many people who are dumbed down, both parties have these people. It's not a realistic option unfortunately.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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Speaking your mind unfiltered night be a great quality for the average Joe Blow internet user, even for a political talk show host, but it's a horrible quality for most positions of power, whether we are discussing various upper management positions in major corporations or President of the United States.

Public speaking and debate are highly valued skills. "Speaking your mind" during a State of the Union address or a UN summit, would make one look like, well, Donald Trump. That isn't a compliment. He comes off as a moron who lacks the ability to construct well thought out sentences. He merely says what enters his mind in that moment. We call it diarrhea of the mouth.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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"President: Do we want another robot or someone who speaks their mind?"

Um.....hmm.....lemme see....
I want someone who loves America and believes in the fact that America is the greatest civilization in the history of mankind...
Someone who remembers that we put men on the moon....the freaking moon...
Nowadays most seem to remember 1969 more for Woodstock than for the single greatest feat in our species history....
But I digress....how about anyone who is not a liberal whose sensibilities begin and end with moral relativism...that should do...
-Christosterone



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: amicktd

The problem is, nobody votes now. If we had even eighty percent voter turnout, especially during non-Presidential elections, this might be a completely different country, for better or for worse. As it stands, there is about a twenty eight percent voter turnout for non-Pres elections, and around forty percent for Presidential elections.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: amicktd
In my opinion, I think the biggest statement we could make is to not vote. If no votes were casted, then that would show we are fed up with the "choose the lesser of 2 evils" option. But, we have the die-hard republicans and democrats that continue to destroy the country because they blindly follow their party. Just a thought


"No votes" are pointless in America because our system is strictly based on who wins the most votes. So even if 1 million people abstain from voting while only 3 people vote, whoever gets 2 votes will win. And if it's a tie, they'll have a run-off or whatever tiebreaker is described in the law. (It's different for lawmakers because they typically need a specific amount of votes for something to pass, though not always.)

To my limited knowledge, boycotting an election only works in 2 cases: 1. Jurisdictions that require a specific percentage of voters for an election to be valid; and 2. Regions where separate armed or powerful factions hold a temporary truce in order to settle things peacefully through an election. America is neither of those. If you simply refuse to vote, your objections mean nothing & the election goes on anyway.

So instead of refusing to vote, why not vote for some obscure 3rd party candidate? Or run for office yourself? 3rd parties become eligible for matching federal funds if they receive 5% or more of the vote (depending on the office the candidate is running for). So why not actually help the candidates who are trying to break the Dem & Repub cycle?

Also, if there's absolutely no one you like, why not vote the opposite of some candidate you despise? As in, "nullify" their vote by voting against their candidate? LOL As an example, there were people arguing w/me years ago about who they thought I was going to vote for. I told them that if they didn't shut up, I'd specifically vote against their candidate just to nullify their vote. That both infuriated them & shut them up. Just a thought



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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the last thing we need is an archie bunker in office. what we need is a president that speaks for the people not for a fringe part of society (grumpy old white men).



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: irishhaf
Doesn't matter, as long as democrats and republicans control congress We are hosed.

Get out of line find a third party to vote for, stop voting against a party and find one you can in good conscience vote for!


Until a third party truly establishes themselves locally, through mayoral elections, state elections, etc. they don't have a viable chance in National elections. Most of them have been trying to gain traction for twenty years or more. And it helps if the faces of your third party aren't seen as loons by the majority. So far, that's been a concept Libertarians and the tea party have failed to properly address.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: usernameconspiracy

I completely disagree, the elections are ran by corporations. The only candidates that get backing are ones that have ideals that favor big business.



posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Christosterone


Nowadays most seem to remember 1969 more for Woodstock than for the single greatest feat in our species history....


I don't know, we been to the moon a few times but no one has ever played Star Spangled Banner on a guitar and made it sound better.



Seriously tho, we will in all likelihood make moon travel and interplanetary travel commonplace at some point but will we ever make better Rock n Roll?

I doubt it.
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posted on Jul, 10 2015 @ 12:51 PM
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How far right will that pendulm swing?
Obama would seem to indicate incredible powers getting away with what he has constitutionally.
Now give such an infrastructure to a hawk and see what will happen.
TRUMP is such a hawk.



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