Jeb Bush's idea to improve economy- "people need to work longer hours"

Jeb Bush really put his foot in his mouth. They're trying to backtrack saying this was about part time workers, but I don't think they can hide the real GOP sentiment- us peons have it too good and we need to work more, pay more taxes and spend less time on frivolous things like families, internet and healthcare.

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I watch these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

originally posted by: Greathouse
I have watched these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

originally posted by: Greathouse
I watch these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

Stagnant wages, longer hours... Yeah, what's wrong with that?

a reply to: CB328

The problem is, he's right. Employer's don't want to hire full time employees because of obamacare. It's damage control to offset the additional costs associated with full time employees(obamacare). Why do you think full time positions have declined while part times have risen?


From your source:

"You can take it out of context all you want, but high sustained growth means people work 40 hours rather than 30 hours and that by our success they have disposable income for their families to decide how they want to spend it rather than standing in line and being dependent upon government,” he said.

As far as I can see, the problem is the welfare state eating too much of the paychecks and not leaving enough to live on. The only choice many have, besides goverment programs, is to work harder. If you want to get ahead, work harder and smarter and don't expect a goverment payout. These socialist programs have only raised the hurdle for the American dream.

Ghost

originally posted by: FalafelBallz

originally posted by: Greathouse
I watch these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

Stagnant wages, longer hours... Yeah, what's wrong with that?

What I see by your reply is that you are locked into the herd mentality of just plodding along . You do realize that you could start your own business don't you? If you're going to work long hours don't do it for someone else do it for yourself .

a reply to: CB328



It is about part time.

hyperbolic frenzies

a reply to: CB328

Google US congressman average hours of work per week

Lots of views and reports but the net result is about 28 hours / week on average that a US politician works when the house and senate are active. There are a few "political sources" that say yeah but they work 70 hours a week when not on the floor blah blah blah.

The long and short of it is that many politicians may have started out with nothing but good intentions, but once they've spent time in the vipers nest they become corrupt pieces of ship that are in it to line their own pockets at the expense of the majority and wouldn't know what real "work" was if it came up and bit them on the ass.

Jeb BUSH - nuff said - dynastic bloodline, great grandad worked for the Nazis, and his ship-for-brains brothers' biggest achievement was "mission accomplished" - LOL

a reply to: Greathouse

The work-force for the most part is a deception within itself. Slave away a good portion of your life doing something you will usually hate for a sum of money that has no intrinsic value, all while those driving the whips at the top live lives of luxury while you're at the bottom scraping food off the bottom of the barrel barely scraping by and doing the majority of the work FOR them.

We basically sell our lives away so that the few at the top can benefit the most off of us. It's a screwed up system from top to bottom and was always meant to be that way.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: FalafelBallz

originally posted by: Greathouse
I watch these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

Stagnant wages, longer hours... Yeah, what's wrong with that?

What I see by your reply is that you are locked into the herd mentality of just plodding along . You do realize that you could start your own business don't you? If you're going to work long hours don't do it for someone else do it for yourself .

You read wrong. I've owned & run my own business for 15 years. I do website design, internet marketing, SEO & social media management. I've also done work for well known brands. I've done very well. So.....

Quiet please!

The man who was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth is telling
us serfs something.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

The work-force for the most part is a deception within itself.

There you go you gave my exact position on the workforce in your first statement . But the question you should really be asking yourself is. Do I want to become part of the workforce or do I want to work for myself .


The underlying factor in any discussion along this line is motivation. If you don't have the drive you will be stuck in a rut. If you are innovative enough to grasp the bull by the horn's, with a whole lot of hard work and many many hours the chances are you won't be stuck in that rut.

Keep this saying in mind if you choose to reach for the brass ring .


" Columbus took a chance and he only lost one ship "

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: FalafelBallz

originally posted by: Greathouse
I watch these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

Stagnant wages, longer hours... Yeah, what's wrong with that?

What I see by your reply is that you are locked into the herd mentality of just plodding along . You do realize that you could start your own business don't you? If you're going to work long hours don't do it for someone else do it for yourself .

Exactly. I actually do both and have for the past year or so, but it's absolutely true that the harder you work, the more money you will make. It may not come overnight, but someone will notice your effort. I started my business for less than $500.00 and had 6 figures in sales last year. After taxes and putting what I had back into the business ,I don't have much left from that, but hard work, long hours do pay off.

Jeb Bush is unelectable IMO, so who cares what he says.

originally posted by: rupertg
Quiet please!

The man who was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth is telling
us serfs something.

Doesn't make what he is trying to say any less true.

a reply to: Greathouse

Then I would become the thing that I hate. If I am self-employed then I am still feeding the system either way.

My point was that the work force is a farce, if I work for myself that doesn't change the fact that I'm still part of the work force. The entire system is broken from top to bottom, the entire economy including entrepreneurs. It is a self-serving system that always funnels money to the very top.

Jeb Bush's idea to improve economy- "people need to work longer hours"

Jeb, here's a thought....

Let's improve the economy by not fighting senseless wars. I know that goes against your neocon ideologies that your family adheres to and I know that you want to invade Iran so bad you can taste it, but let's put some of the tax money into improving the American infrastructure instead of profit for the MIC.

Jeb Bush is obviously an idiot. In a labor market, there are two things to consider: labor demand and labor supply. No matter how much people want to "work more hours" if the labor demand isn't there, the labor supply excess continues to grow.

Here's an idea. Why don't we work LESS hours? That would actually have the effect of decreasing the labor supply and simultaneously increasing the labor demand.

originally posted by: AbstractDreamz

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: FalafelBallz

originally posted by: Greathouse
I watch these threads pop up lately. I have tried to refrain from commenting but I finally feel the need to .


I would just like to ask what is wrong with working longer hours? Is the only way to succeed and not just exist?

Stagnant wages, longer hours... Yeah, what's wrong with that?

What I see by your reply is that you are locked into the herd mentality of just plodding along . You do realize that you could start your own business don't you? If you're going to work long hours don't do it for someone else do it for yourself .

Exactly. I actually do both and have for the past year or so, but it's absolutely true that the harder you work, the more money you will make. It may not come overnight, but someone will notice your effort. I started my business for less than $500.00 and had 6 figures in sales last year. After taxes and putting what I had back into the business ,I don't have much left from that, but hard work, long hours do pay off.

Jeb Bush is unelectable IMO, so who cares what he says.

I have such disdain for Bush he is completely immaterial to my opinion in this thread .

It just dishearten's me to see a younger generation giving up. I applaud what you have done and the hard work you put into your business . I'm sure by now you have come to realize that there is much more hard work ahead and your payoff is at the end .

Many of the younger people have not yet realized that hard work does not equal instant gratification . Hard work equals hard work your payoff is later.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Then I would become the thing that I hate.

Why on earth would you say that?

If you were in the position to employ others you could become the exact opposite of what you hate. My employees were always the best paid and most taken care of . I made a stand I did not drug test, I never paid minimum wage and I went out of my way to include significant others in health coverage .


No you could run your own business and be a good boss you don't need to run with the herd .

a reply to: Greathouse

20 + years of doing jobs I despised, but it payed the bills and allowed me to be where I am today.