Political correctness scares me .

a reply to: NihilistSanta

freedom fries

Well that's a bad example because that one failed . Lol


I can only assume it failed because that groups position didn't include forcing their will on the other side .

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Kinda like if you don't agree with gay marriage you just shouldn't marry the same sex.

Instead of making it so no one can.

a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Ya, it was intentional.
That is ridiculous anyone would find that term offensive in anyway.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ketsuko

I'll be glad to provide plenty of examples, but I'd like to see some more folks weigh in first.

So, PC is a left wing phenomenon as far as you're concerned ... Since you're asking me for examples?

Is that a fair statement?

No, not necessarily. I'm just asking you for what you consider examples of specifically "right wing" PC since you brought it up.

Conspiracy theory

A notable 21st-century conspiracy theory regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to subvert traditional western cultural norms, referred to as "Cultural Marxism" by theory proponents. It advocates the idea that multiculturalism and political correctness are products of critical theory, which originated with the Frankfurt School. The theory is associated with American conservative thinkers such as William Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich, and has received institutional support from the Free Congress Foundation.[51][52] A copy of Political Correctness: A Short History of an Ideology by the FCF was included in a document titled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence by Norwegian terrorist Anders Behring Breivik, which was e-mailed to 1,003 addresses about 90 minutes before the 2011 bomb blast in Oslo Breivik was responsible for.[53]

Although it became more widespread in the late 1990s and 2000s, the theory originated with Michael Minnicino's 1992 essay "New Dark Age: Frankfurt School and 'Political Correctness'", published in Fidelio by the Schiller Institute.[54][55][56] The Schiller Institute, a branch of the LaRouche movement, further promoted the idea in 1994.[57] The Minnicino article charges that the Frankfurt School promoted Modernism in the arts as a form of Cultural pessimism, and played a role in shaping the 1960s counterculture.[54] In 1999 Lind led the creation of an hour-long program, Political Correctness: The Frankfurt School.

Frankfurt School

Check the [references] and see the attempt at controlled opposition by Left Wing sources.

a reply to: Sremmos80

If you are going to carry hostility from one thread to another, something I think is against forum rules, you should at least get it right. I never said no one should do it, only that I disagree with the holy vow part of it.

Marry whoever you want. I deny your political correctness and retain the right to not agree with it. But unlike the liberals who disagree with something, I can still allow it to happen and not interfere with it.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Ya, it was intentional.
That is ridiculous anyone would find that term offensive in anyway.

My understanding of the Brown Bag thing, is that it actually began with Black groups as a way of keeping other Blacks of a particularly dark skin tone out of their meetings/establishments, etc. If your skin was darker than the bag, you weren't welcome.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

That one really took off, too, if I recall. /sarc

But as I recall, a lot of conservatives thought it was dumb because it never went much further than a few restaurants and the capital café.

I got fired from Dominoes for expressing religious beliefs in the pizza shop as a teenage delivery driver... I didn't know the owner was a Fundamental Christian. His daughter came in to fold pizza boxes, over heard a stupid conversation between myself and a coworker where I expressed disdain for organized religion - I was let go the next day, despite bringing in the #1 amount of money of any delivery driver in my store, I never called out, I never was late, and always did my job to the best of my ability.

I wasn't given a reason for my termination (I also worked a triple shift, opened and closed the store, as we were closing the store, the manager told me it'd be my last day, and he was so sorry, but had no choice) Another driver was fired for wearing "large britches" (not the underwear exposing kind, but those goofy wide-leg pants teenagers wore in the 90's) and another delivery driver was fired for wearing their hair in dreadlocks. I didn't find out the reason for my firing until later from a different coworker (I didn't know the box girl was the boss' daughter, I saw her every once in a while, but I thought she was just one of the usual part-time counter girls).

Stupid behavior isn't political - there are plenty of conservatives with the same knee-jerk reactionism over cultural issues as liberals - people are stupid, it's not political, it just is.

originally posted by: AbstractDreamz
Political correctness makes America 1939 Germany. As cliché' as that sounds, the only thing that really separates us from the rest of the world is that we aren't punished for our thoughts and opinions. When PC starts demanding how we think and what is right or wrong, then we are truly in trouble and to me, we aren't far off.

Yes and political correctness is the religion of the far left.
They become so upset if one uses any term "they" consider offensive, you'd think someone had insulted their God.
You know it has become a God when people like Climate Change worshipers demand jail time or death for those who disagree with them.

The God of the far left liberal,progressive,socialist Democrats
is intolerance; for those who dare to think incorrect thoughts
is judgmental; for those who dare to speak incorrect thoughts
is bigoted; in that people are insulted in groups
(ie the much repeated on ATS: Christians are...awful.....)
is filled with self righteous prejudice
(everything we believe is the one and only thing that everyone must believe and agree with; or else)
is filled with open contempt and revenge (hateful emails and death threats sent en-mass to those who dare to disagree)

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Sremmos80

If you are going to carry hostility from one thread to another, something I think is against forum rules, you should at least get it right. I never said no one should do it, only that I disagree with the holy vow part of it.

Marry whoever you want. I deny your political correctness and retain the right to not agree with it. But unlike the liberals who disagree with something, I can still allow it to happen and not interfere with it.

I had zero idea of your stance on gay marriage, I assure you that wasn't a personal thing.
TBH I don't even recall seeing your avatar in any thread I have been in lately.

Just a similar if I don't like you can't have example

a reply to: grandmakdw

Do you honestly believe anything you just posted? You can't see the irony in your own post? You blame progressive socialist democrats, but there are populations that have never heard of progressive, nor socialist, nor democrat, yet kill and ostracize themselves along cultural and social lines, and have been doing so well before the words progressive socialist democrat. Traditional Conservatism is dying - demographics are changing, and that won't change - funny how education and economic viability can have an effect on population numbers. Keep people poor, uneducated, socially disenfranchised, they breed like rats.

The world is a very different place then it was 50 years ago, and it will be a very different place 50 years from now - simple population growth numbers guarantee it. So what is to be done? I've seen much chiding of political correctness, but no solution/alternative? The culture of old is on it's way out, as all culture before it was replaced - conservatism is just holding on to scraps of the past against a flood gate of change, and with faster population growth, and better communication, the elimination of tradition will be excelled.

Yeah, political correctness SUCKS!!! Nothing worse than having to walk on egg shell all the time just cuz some insecure dumbass might get offended.

There's a time for respect and a time to speak your mind. Finding the balance is key.

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Ya, it was intentional.
That is ridiculous anyone would find that term offensive in anyway.

My understanding of the Brown Bag thing, is that it actually began with Black groups as a way of keeping other Blacks of a particularly dark skin tone out of their meetings/establishments, etc. If your skin was darker than the bag, you weren't welcome.

Well in that case it is no different than Rap artists using the "N" word in every one of their songs, it should pass the PC police with flying colors eventually.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Ya, it was intentional.
That is ridiculous anyone would find that term offensive in anyway.

My understanding of the Brown Bag thing, is that it actually began with Black groups as a way of keeping other Blacks of a particularly dark skin tone out of their meetings/establishments, etc. If your skin was darker than the bag, you weren't welcome.

Well in that case it is no different than Rap artists using the "N" word in every one of their songs, it should pass the PC police with flying colors eventually.

Well, by your example, it would only be acceptable if Black people used it.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

It's not, and you know it. There is a reason why saying the "N" word in certain circles is accepted, and others its not - it's the same reason why the Irish can joke amongst themselves about their alcoholism, but if you're not Irish, you're likely to get socked in the mouth (but us Irish just love to fight, if god didn't bless the Irish with alcoholism, we'd rule the world =)

originally posted by: Syyth007
a reply to: TinfoilTP

It's not, and you know it. There is a reason why saying the "N" word in certain circles is accepted, and others its not - it's the same reason why the Irish can joke amongst themselves about their alcoholism, but if you're not Irish, you're likely to get socked in the mouth (but us Irish just love to fight, if god didn't bless the Irish with alcoholism, we'd rule the world =)

So you are saying because the Irish are proud to call themselves drunks that Blacks are proud to be called the "N" word, but only among themselves?

Your logic has failed on many levels.

Drinking is an activity for one thing. What activity would the "N" word be exactly? How are they profficient at it since you are making this comparison?

a reply to: TinfoilTP

It's self-degradation, and everyone does it to a point. It has no bearing on whether it is a racial slur or a stereotype, it is a form of self-degradation. Ever see that episode of Sienfeld where his dentist converts to Judaism, and starts making jewish jokes, but Jerry is insulted because he is a gentile who converted - it's kind of like that, to use a pop culture reference.

nvm

originally posted by: Syyth007
a reply to: TinfoilTP

It's self-degradation, and everyone does it to a point. It has no bearing on whether it is a racial slur or a stereotype, it is a form of self-degradation. Ever see that episode of Sienfeld where his dentist converts to Judaism, and starts making jewish jokes, but Jerry is insulted because he is a gentile who converted - it's kind of like that, to use a pop culture reference.

Not everyone does it, in any group as a whole some will do it but it is never fair to the ones in the group who does not do it. The "everyone does it" is a cop out.
The thug rappers who glorify street cred may do it but how is that fair to the productive Black members of society who want the word eradicated from the English language?

Your broad stroke of "everyone does it" holds absolute zero meaning.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

See eradicating a word is why it is a form of control. Eradicate the word then soon people forget the meaning, why it was eradicated, the origins of the word, historical and modern context etc. Limiting thought and information and only allowing the expression of acceptable thought is totalitarian. Lets burn any books that make reference to those words.

This is the issue with the flag and removal of monuments. You are erasing history (doomed to repeat ...). I found it comical really during all of the flag hoopla that people wanted monuments removed. Those very people were probably in an uproar when the Taliban destroyed the Buddha statues in Afghanistan.