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Here's a challenge to all the "Pro-Life" men on this thread who will NEVER actually have to deal with a pregnancy: put a cinderblock in a backpack and wear it backwards (so all the weight is in the front) for 6 months. Straight. To bed, in the shower, driving, everything. Do this and I might respect your opinion a smidgen more. But it still doesn't give you the right to force your opinion on another person.
And you ask me what I've done? Um...I waited until I was financially/emotionally stable and then had planned pregnancies. And I have supported all my friends over all the years no matter what their situations were or what their decisions ended up being. But then again I'm not the one trying to dictate what other people must or must not do with their own bodies, so I would say my burden of proving my stance is much lower than a self-righteous anti-choicer.
originally posted by: jjkenobi
Can someone tell me why, in every single pro-life thread, the first and most common response is rape/incest pregnancies? Do you people realize how statistically minute that is? It's a fall back straw man argument for those who don't want to address the real issues. Secondly, in my conservative circle of friends/contacts I don't know a single person who thinks there should be no exceptions. Specifically for medical safety or rape/incest cases.
The death penalty is used on convicted murderers and such, not an innocent baby.
"Tunnel-vision"? You seem like you are really open to other perspectives too...
I think it is good and healthy for people to have their views and morals in wavering in certain instances. Can't be so open minded that our brains fall out.
It's just very cavalier to tell someone they HAVE to do something that you haven't done yourself and never will do yourself.
originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
a reply to: amberinsc
What about the pregnant woman's Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness???? How is it okay to ruin her life, revoke all liberty and deny her pursuit of happiness? The moment she becomes pregnant the fetus' rights trump hers? How would you feel if suddenly the government told you that you had to be sick, gain weight, endure all kinds of physical, financial and emotional hardships for the next 10 months whether you wanted to or not? How would you feel if suddenly you were forced to either give up something you loved and wanted more than anything, or live in poverty for the rest of your life...or would you then consider that maybe putting an end to the situation early would be the least painful route for all involved?
It's really easy to Monday morning quarterback.
originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
a reply to: RoyBatty
Oh I agree wholeheartedly that raising children is NOT for everyone. I was mainly aiming my anecdotes and challenge to the men who have the attitude of "Just have the baby and give it up for adoption!" Like they're saying "Just go to McDonald's and order a cheeseburger!"
Hey guys, it's more like "Just cut off your left foot with a hacksaw!" I mean, come on, what's the big deal? So easy for me to say, not so easy for you to do.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: WatchingY0u
Birth control began over 6000 years ago...
The earliest documented instances of birth control date to 2,000BCE at the earliest, anything else is speculation.
originally posted by: Seamrog
The pro-life argument does, in fact, have the moral high ground, and we should never be ashamed to claim it and proclaim it. For the God haters and the non religious, the point is the same regardless of how you feel or don't feel about God.