a reply to: Achilles92x
Those are exceptions to the rule. Not all abortions are done for that kind of reason.
Personally, I'm pro-choice, but anti-abortion.
What scares me is peoples' attitude toward personal responsibility. The vast majority of abortions are not done because of rape, or to save the
mother's life, or to prevent horrendous suffering of an infant and tremendous expenses if it is born. The majority are done because the baby is
But what of personal responsibility? You made the choice, whether woman or man involved, to have sex. Women argue they shouldn't have to carry
something around for 9 months that they don't want? These women are going to have a healthy baby, yet wish to abort it because they don't want it?
Yet they made the CHOICE to have sex. Seriously, to me, that is a disgusting trait in a human being. People who cannot take personal responsibility
for their actions are the worst.
You are right. I also, am pro-choice but anti-abortion. Never thought to put it that way, but I am. It is true what you say, most abortions are not
done out of medical necessity. Which is singularly ridiculous because with the available methods of birth control out there, the abortion rate should
be next to nothing right now, being used for what it is actually needed for...those emergent situations that require medical intervention.
Now, to blur the line a bit: Sometimes, women get pregnant despite faithfully using reliable methods of birth control...I know, because I was one of
them and it is dangerous for me to be pregnant. My daughter is only alive because of a miracle, as am I. No way did I want to risk that again. I
had an IUD and used condoms as a backup redundancy, and I got pregnant anyway. This is a lot more common than you might think, too.
Should women like that be able to terminate a pregnancy that is a direct threat to her life and the well-being of her existing children? Yes,
absolutely. She was being responsible. She wasn't just out there throwing it out to every guy she saw, willy nilly. In my case, I would have been
surgically sterilized but I was 23 years old and no doctor would agree to do it, because I only had one child and was so young. It didn't matter what
I wanted. My feelings were not respected. Insurance refused to pay for it. So I did what I could to protect myself, and it wasn't enough.
I worked for a clinic, actually, years ago and the doc was a very compassionate, caring man. He left his home town three days a week and drove to
ours to open this little clinic for women to have a place to go if they were in need. Not all of the women who walked through that door left with an
empty uterus. He did not perform abortions in lieu of birth control. He would not perform multiple abortions on the same person, and if a patient
came for their follow-up visit and had not been taking her birth control pills, he would send her away and wish her good luck elsewhere.
What was astounding to me were the reasons that women would give for not using their birth control. A few of the more stunningly outrageous of
"Birth control pills will make me fat."
"Birth control pills can give you blood clots." (and pelvic surgical procedures can't??????)
"Birth control pills dry your skin out and make you look old."
"Birth control pills lower your sex drive." (ummmmm....hate to be Captain Obvious here but....)
My personal favorite:
"Birth control pills make your boobs really big and my boyfriend said he would break up with me if my boobs ever got really big."
would never cause that right??? Just the prevention for it. Seems legit...) By the way, that one had just reached
the ripe old age of 15. There is a deeper underlying problem here.
I think the thing about choice is, people don't realize how many bases that actually covers. Some people want to say it's acceptable to abort a
pregnancy in the case of rape or endangerment of the woman's life, but it's not acceptable to abort an unwanted pregnancy. Well, by definition
aborted pregnancy is an unwanted one, isn't it? They have to use more specific language than that. And stop using the word "choice".
Replace it with "options". And make certain options, such as late-term abortion for any reason, unavailable.
Bottom line: you cannot tell a human being that they have the right to choose what to do with their own body and then turn right around and tell them
what choices they are required to make...it is not a choice at that point. Be honest about it.
Ultimately, I feel I have no right to judge others for the choices that they make. The fact remains, no matter how much people try to avoid it, that
until we have experienced something for ourselves we have absolutely no right to tell other people how they are supposed to feel about it when it is
happening to them. I have made choices in my life that I would have sworn I'd never make, but that was before I was placed in a position of having to
make them. People who have never had to make the decision of whether or not to terminate a pregnancy have no right sitting in judgement of those who
have. Period. They don't have to like it, or even agree with it.
I do not think women should have the right to terminate a pregnancy just because they drank too much and accidentally had sex with a stranger. That
is what birth control is for, and common sense. But if a woman who uses her BC properly and regularly happens to have a moment of utter stupidity and
lack of common sense, becomes pregnant and that pregnancy threatens her life? That changes things for me. Sure, she's just as irresponsible and
stupid as Exhibit A, but should she be sentenced to death for it? Should she pay for one stupid mistake with her life? This is not a "black and
white" issue. The gray area here is fathoms deep.
I do not think that multiple abortions for the same person should be legal. I do not think that parents of kids under the age of 18 should be able to
bring their teenage daughter in to have an abortion because they were not doing their job as a parent and allowed something like that to even happen
in the first place. I do not think that late-term abortion should be used in any circumstance. There are a lot of things I disagree with, but
ultimately if it is a woman's right to choose
, from unlimited options, nothing can be done about it.
Personally, I think the law needs to be amended. Not abolished, but updated. Give options to people. Set boundaries, so that there are consequences
for those who choose
to be deliberately irresponsible...like any other law out there. This can be done without infringing on a woman's right
to choose, and it has nothing to do with religion or any of that either...there is no Universal religion that trumps every other one, no matter what
the zealots say. Give them a nice refreshing glass of Shut The Hell Up, a round for everybody.
Abortion is not on the rise. Awareness has been raised, and abortion rates have dropped, significantly. With a little more concerted effort, we can
move past this...but the key is going to be putting aside differences and coming to a solution. I'm just not sure it's possible anymore.