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Bird mystery: Thousands disappear and abandon eggs, nests on island off Florida's Gulf Coast

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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Speculation? If only it were speculation, but unfortunately some of our members speak as if they 100% know the answers and you're wrong to question their "speculation"




posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Plugin
When you search google for disappearing birds it's seems to be a trend going on.

In this case I wonder if there is for example an algae bloom explosion going on (this in itself is related to global warming > acidification of the oceans where algae can thrive) .. or was going on killing allot of fish and other species.
www.usatoday.com...

america.aljazeera.com...


My guess as well. The red tides on Florida's Gulf Coast have been very large the past couple of years, including one last fall that was 90 miles along the coast. Same thing out west with the giant blob of algae on the Pacific Coast. It's due to global warming.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: Rezlooper
This is such a shame! such lovely birds, and a real tragedy they had to leave their nests and eggs. Quite disturbing. I hope the cause is discovered, and it's something we can remedy, if it's our fault, however it is something we might never be able to determine.

Rez, I wish you would weigh in on the 'methane gas' suggestion some one made. I remember you once mentioning that the gas is odorless, or in some cases there is a sort of a 'rotten egg' smell, which can be dangerous. Do you think there could have been a bubble of the 'rotten egg' smell the birds got a whiff of, sensed danger, and took off? (I remember you mentioning somewhere else that Florida has tons of it).

Just curious.


If they were able to get a whiff and get away, it would have most likely been a low dose of Hydrogen Sulfide that wouldn't have been strong enough to kill them. I spend a lot of time in the winters in Florida and so often you can be driving along and get a strong rotten egg smell. I live in Wisconsin and I can tell you that here, we don't ever get that. It's very rare. It happened to me once a few years ago when I pulled over in the woods to let my kid get out and take a leak. We smelled it and quickly got out of the area. Once in Florida I smelt the rotten egg on the north side of Ocala off I-75, then we drove on left the smell, went to Walmart and once we came outside the smell had reached that side of town. That was a very large plume of the gas. Florida has a lot of hydrogen sulfide plumes, and many are coming from their landfills. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the case on this island. Could have been methane as well, but we probably would have found a mass die off like so many others rather than a disappearance.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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I am not sure if there are any alarming heat waves down in Florida, but it has been record-breaking up in the Pacific Northwest. It is okay to get heat waves in August, but we started in June and Vancouver's water reserves are already down to 79%, which has never happened. Tons of forest fires as well.

Could this record-breaking heat also cause disturbances to wildlife? Most likely...



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
Note to self: Never ask Rezlooper a question again. He finds inquisitiveness and speculation a waste of time and annoying.


Huh? When you have a mass of biologists in a singular area that can't figure it out....I would say that conspiracy theories are WAY out on the edge.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

Yeah...I don't get it. Sometimes I wish ATS had a clause where, if a member claims it is something, they have to post a pic of their credentials in the particular area of study.

While I love to let my mind wander, I can't discount what a large group of specialists in a very small area of study conclude.

I mean we have biologists from around the country and US Fish and Wildlife employees saying they have no idea. All after doing over a month of research on it.

Yet it must be pythons or earthquakes or magnetic anomolies.

Anywho...ATS is ATS....



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: corsair00
I am not sure if there are any alarming heat waves down in Florida, but it has been record-breaking up in the Pacific Northwest. It is okay to get heat waves in August, but we started in June and Vancouver's water reserves are already down to 79%, which has never happened. Tons of forest fires as well.

Could this record-breaking heat also cause disturbances to wildlife? Most likely...


I am sure a heat wave can cause a disturbance. This particular story is only related to a specific Key though, with many others around it not being affected. If a heatwave were the cause, you'd expect every Key around it to have the same issue.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

The little blue herons, roseate spoonbills, snowy egrets, pelicans and other birds left the island all at once in May.



Okay, I'm probably being a little difficult here, but...

If the birds left all at once in May, then why do they have pictures of birds nesting and groups of birds in trees dated in June this year?

And, just saying, it does look like a lot of birds in that one tree...

No reflection on the OP, great story. I just thought they were odd photos to use for the story...

I mean, couldn't the photographer have taken photos of a empty nest and likewise, a empty tree?
It would of helped emphasis the story more I think.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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no heat wave here in Florida, in the keys they say it's always pleasant. temperatures range from high of 82 in April to 80 in November. the highest temp on record for the keys was 97f in 1880 and the lowest temp 41f in 1981. the heat index in the keys is nothing like the rest of Florida. they have a relative humidity rate of about 75%.

i live in the panhandle and right now it's 79f at 10:30PM, and a humidity 82% so it feels like it's about 82 to85f .

ETA: just checked and found that SEAHORSE KEY, Fla is just west of Ocala Fl. not in the keys as i was thinking temps there during this time of year are high 80' low 90's. temp now is 75 and humidity is 88% just looked at the acuweather chart for may and it was 80f on may1 and ended at 90 on may31. highest temp during may was 92 on may 25. so it's right around the same as always.


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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: ByteChanger

Got a link to the pics you're talking about? You replied to my first post on the thread and that source has no pics of any of those things.

They reference that there are birds at Snake Key, but that isn't Seahorse Key. They say in the article that a fraction of the birds from Seahorse Key were found in Snake Key, but 10's of thousands are gone.
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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:49 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: corsair00

no heat wave here in Florida, in the keys they say it's always pleasant. temperatures range from high of 82 in April to 80 in November. the highest temp on record for the keys was 97f in 1880 and the lowest temp 41f in 1981. the heat index in the keys is nothing like the rest of Florida. they have a relative humidity rate of about 75%.

i live in the panhandle and right now it's 85f at 10:30PM, and a heat index of 65 so it feels like it's about 93 to 95.



I can't imagine a heat wave being the culprit either. If it was a heatwave it would have affected all of the area, not a specific island, whIle the others still had no issue.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:49 PM
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It must be HAARP..
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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: makemap
Not surprised how America is destroying itself with pollution...

www.washingtonpost.com... 989ae9a2_story.html


Huh? Did you even read the story at all? So...you postulate on is that America is destroying itself with pollution, yet it only affected a single island in a chain of islands, and miraculously no contaminants were found by actual scientists?

A bit at a loss as to why you even posted in this thread as it is extremely obvious it has nothing to do with pollution based on plenty of actual scientists studying the area.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe


Huh? Did you even read the story at all? So...you postulate on is that America is destroying itself with pollution, yet it only affected a single island in a chain of islands, and miraculously no contaminants were found by actual scientists?

A bit at a loss as to why you even posted in this thread as it is extremely obvious it has nothing to do with pollution based on plenty of actual scientists studying the area.


I changed the post, but haven't anyone find it weird that there hasn't been any hurricanes since the last few years?
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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

see my edit, i was wrong in where i was thinking cedar key was. it's on the west coast.
anyway, during the late spring and summer here in fl it gets damn hot. it's not a dry heat it's steamy heat.
birds and other animals deal with it and may not move around much during the day but they do in the mornings and evenings

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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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originally posted by: makemap

originally posted by: Vasa Croe


Huh? Did you even read the story at all? So...you postulate on is that America is destroying itself with pollution, yet it only affected a single island in a chain of islands, and miraculously no contaminants were found by actual scientists?

A bit at a loss as to why you even posted in this thread as it is extremely obvious it has nothing to do with pollution based on plenty of actual scientists studying the area.


I changed the post, but haven't anyone find it weird that there hasn't been any hurricanes since the last few years?


Oh...yeah, HAARP is a MUCH more viable option then.../sarcasm.

Seriously? HAARP?

Sorry for the sarcasm, but if you are going to claim HAARP being the culprit I will need to see you evidence and reasoning behind the targeting of a virtually uninhabited Key off the west coast of FL, and why birds, specifically, were the target.

HAARP....the answer to all things climate and wild life related....

What do birds missing, hurricanes not happening, and HAARP have to do with eachother? And expound on the end game of no hurricanes and an island losing 20k birds....just wondering how your mind is linking these things.
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posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 01:27 AM
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I live in Florida and even though its hot here, its nothing unusual.

My personal guess is maybe harrassment from some drunk boaters. Harrass them enough, maybe a couple days in a row and it might distress the birds enough to make them leave.

This comes to mind because a couple weeks ago we had a drunk drive his suv on the beach at night (which is not allowed here at all! No vehicles on the beach at all.)....he ran over a sea turtle nest and through a group of nesting skimmers which is a kind of bird....both of these areas are roped off for their protection....some people are just [insert profanity of choice].....



posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 01:28 AM
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originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor
a reply to: Vasa Croe

They say Animals know ahead of time when something is about to hit the fan, anything else gone missing or is it just birds?

CbG


They should check the magnetic fields in the area.

Paranormal experts should be consulted too.



posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 04:26 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: ByteChanger

Got a link to the pics you're talking about? You replied to my first post on the thread and that source has no pics of any of those things.

They reference that there are birds at Snake Key, but that isn't Seahorse Key. They say in the article that a fraction of the birds from Seahorse Key were found in Snake Key, but 10's of thousands are gone.


Ummm, the pictures are in the article you referenced. Under the link "Source"...

1st pic: In this Friday, June 19, 2015 photo, an Osprey returns to its nest in Seahorse Key

2nd pic: In this Friday, June 19, 2015 photo, a variety of birds gather in branches at Snake Key, Fla. near Seahorse Key,

I guess that 2nd one is not Seahorse Key, but Snake Key... Didn't catch that when I first read it.
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posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 07:13 AM
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Yup I'm not seeing any odd temp's in the area as well.

I'm not sure if it's pollution, but if it was you'd think the birds would move be for starting a nest and laying eggs. Since it's just a local area that is effected so far wouldn't there need to be a pretty big spike in pollution in that area be for the month of May for them to just up and leave? Also wouldn't we see other areas nearby doing the same thing after May?

I still haven't seen any reports done on water tests or tests on the local fish population. I hope we can find something on that soon as well. Go down the food chain maybe something is there.

What I also wonder about is they left in May, well nothing happened in June and so far nothing in July. Other reports of animals leaving an area I've seen only has them leaving a week ahead of a disaster to as little as a few hours. But over two months and so far nothing. Did we missing something in May or June?



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