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Subway pitchman Jared Fogle’s home raided in child porn investigation

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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Vasa Croe

You've already convicted him?Look how you put it in your op...not fair whatsoever.

AND he wasn't even arrested...and you've spoken as though he was


It's the title of the article and the quotes from it. Typically, as another poster said, the FBI would not be able to get a warrant if there was not a real case because a judge knows better than slandering someone in the news.

They can't arrest him unless they have the evidence from his electronics at the house he was detained at while they were taking them away.




posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: Urantia1111

originally posted by: Septimus
Well, look on the bright side; if he gets sent to jail he can still get his foot-longs.


I was scrambling to come up with a "footlong" joke. Lol well-crafted!

I dont think they come out and grab your computer without some pretty solid knowledge of wrongdoing. Itw not the first step in that process.

Man walks in to a chiropodist thinking its a brothel, pulls out his thing and puts it on the desk, the lady behind the desk says " Thats not a foot" the man answers "I know but its a good bloody 10 inches"
There you got your joke



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

This is horrible news...and too we have to wonder about his own children...the whole mess just nauseates me.

The FBI raided his home and are tagging evidence...I am thinking the FBI wouldn't be there unless they are sure they are going to find something.

Pray for those children and their healing...it is most important.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: caladonea

That's one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard. The FBI wouldn't be somewhere if the suspect weren't guilty?

They are keeping a record of this conversation right now to fight terrorism. You and I are therefore probably terrorists right?

I'm all for the legal killing of anyone caught in the act or convicted, but to say somebody is guilty of something like that because somebody checked to see whether he's guilty or not? That's lynch mob talk.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: The Vagabond

I understand what you are saying...I think you over reacted...I said the FBI wouldn't be there unless they are going to find something...Jarred may or may not have done something...perhaps he allowed someone to borrow his computer...perhaps someone is trying to frame him...perhaps he is guilty...time will tell.

As for your other remark...no way...I love America and I am a patriot.

Personally...I hope it turns out that Jarred is not guilty.

Did I have a strong reaction to the news...absolutely...I am human...it happens.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: Vasa Croe

How can they seize evidence (his property) without arresting him? That isn't due process.


With a warrant - you don't have to be arrested to have potential evidence seized - that has (AFAIK) never ben the case.

the 4th amendment covers it.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: The Vagabond
a reply to: caladonea

That's one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard. The FBI wouldn't be somewhere if the suspect weren't guilty?



the person you replied to didn't say the FBI wouldn't be there unless they were guilty - they said the FBI wouldn't be there unless they were sure they would find something - that's quiet a difference!

You should not paraphrase people unless you're going to be at least vaguely accurate!!!



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

I wonder who tipped them off. Also, the article just said that his stuff was seized, not if they actually found anything. I'm withholding an opinion until I have more information.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

You are correct. I find the statement not that much less disturbing in its original form (as the thing presumed there to be found would of course be evidence of a crime) but indeed there is an extra logical step or two from there to the evidence pointing to anyone in particular and that person being guilty by dint of that evidence.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Formerly fat, probably their entire lives before the... Subway diet, I imagine they may have psychological issues regarding their own adolescent sexuality, a type of arrested development that may have flared up when they became more involved with this nonprofit foundation dealing with children. Plus they have children of their own, who in turn have friends, and lots of technologies which were not around when these men were adolescents, thus creating a moral dilemma for them and their feelings. I can sympathize, but it sounds suspicious if another guy was also involved previously.

I recall a few months ago the 'Seventh Heaven' actor had a similar charge which came about suddenly because his wife allegedly caught him and his secret lolita love. I am willing to bet it was a similar situation, but probably one that involved actual children as well.
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posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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The newest news is that Jared and Subway have agreed to put a hold on their corporate relationship for now (maybe something like Brian Williams taking a leave from NBC, and then showing up on MSNBC as a special events/news commentator, but without the MSNBC part).



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: Septimus
Well, look on the bright side; if he gets sent to jail he can still get his foot-longs.


I think that might limit his options, but wasn't Jared committed to the six-inchers anyway? That will certainly umm... broaden his horizons


This gives him a great opportunity to spread his products..

I guess Jared might be going from pitch man to more of a catcher.







edit on 7-7-2015 by 8675309jenny because: Neon genesis made me do it



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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he looks like a pedo, south park pegged him right



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: 9thWatcher
he looks like a pedo, south park pegged him right


Well they DID predict 9-11 right?



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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Seems like some kinda Berenstein/Berenstain Bear alternative ready as of late. Beloved comedian: Cosby is a rapist to well known(or I guess liked in the past)brand icon types: Subway Jared is a pedo. Sickness shining through in an ill culture/popular culture or character assassination?



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake
Seems like some kinda Berenstein/Berenstain Bear alternative ready as of late. Beloved comedian: Cosby is a rapist to well known(or I guess liked in the past)brand icon types: Subway Jared is a pedo. Sickness shining through in an ill culture/popular culture or character assassination?


Fame only encourages the sickness. It was obviously in there to begin with. Once the go takes over and the grandeur sets in, the only thing between the sick individual and the victim is money....hence money being the root of all evil.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:24 PM
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He wasn't arrested probably because they didn't have enough solid evidence and therefore this should have been kept quiet until they did have solid evidence ---"Due Process." In any case let's not do the "guilty until proven innocent" thing. Maybe he is guilty as all hell, but I sure hope police/feds are issuing warrants based on actual evidence of the individual being knowledgeable and actually being involved in whatever activity was occurring on their computer.

A while back my computer guy told me there are specific viruses that can get on your computer and make it access websites you aren't even aware of. So if somehow they are just monitoring ISP addresses and conflating that alone as probable cause against an individual it's a dangerous situation here regarding due process... and that can happen to anyone.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Vasa Croe

You've already convicted him?Look how you put it in your op...not fair whatsoever.

AND he wasn't even arrested...and you've spoken as though he was


It's the title of the article and the quotes from it. Typically, as another poster said, the FBI would not be able to get a warrant if there was not a real case because a judge knows better than slandering someone in the news.

They can't arrest him unless they have the evidence from his electronics at the house he was detained at while they were taking them away.



"because a judge knows better"... there are judges who awarded child-custody to an abusive parent and some have even allowed molesters to have unsupervised visitation with their children. That's a fact. Plus, try suing a judge.

IMO, there's no shortage of judges who are sociopathic morons.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: The Vagabond
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

You are correct. I find the statement not that much less disturbing in its original form (as the thing presumed there to be found would of course be evidence of a crime) but indeed there is an extra logical step or two from there to the evidence pointing to anyone in particular and that person being guilty by dint of that evidence.


Remember also that evidence found may be that of someone else committing a crime - a warrant to search your premises does not need to relate to any crime you have committed.

All it requires is the police convince a judge that they have a REASONABLE suspicion that some crime has been committed, and that they can find some evidence of it at the appropriate address!



posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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originally posted by: The Vagabond
What baffles me about this subject in the modern age is that we know for a fact that the U.S. government DOES intercept every single bit of illegal content transmitted electronically within the United States.
Shouldn't the feds be announcing the rescue of hundreds of children and the accidental suffocation of hundreds of offenders during their arrests on a fairly regular basis???

When it comes to cyber crime- be it identity theft, sex offenses, stalking, scamming, add-on I can't help seeing government and industry in complicity with felons. In financial crimes this is flat out obvious. The American poor are doing business not in dollars but in electronic corporate scrip cards that are DESIGNED to be stolen. If you steal cash and buy crack they get nothing- if you steal a gift card account and trade an Xbox for crack, the retailer and the government are guaranteed a cut of the loot. This is a less murky example of how and why they refuse to use their massive law enforcement surveillance powers to make cyber crimes traceable and preventable.

I think the information is worth more than the lives affected to Google and the government when it comes to child porn in particular. I think they are allowing this material to be out there and available. It allows them to study the problem, it allows them to farm an endless supply of offenders that we the people will pay to be protected from, and of course it's the most serious crime that can be committed with out any actual physical evidence being created, meaning they can use the charge on anyone for any reason and it's the government vs a stranger in a credibility contest, with children's safety in the balance, so only an anarchist would be completely unswayed by the tactic.

If I had my way, we'd immediately charge every internet service provider with aiding and abetting and make them prove they didn't know they'd handled illegal content or have information about anyone who did. Of course all of a sudden the cut and dry standards that they will apply to Jared would go right out the widow and there would be multiple conflicting expert explanations of just how sure we can be that an ip designates a computer which is controlled by a specific person, in exactly the same way that the convenience and security they claim for their illegal fake bank cards becomes more impenetrable to a company than to a tweaker once your money has been stolen and spent


Quit rambling, they have to present evidence in court as to why people are arrested. We illegaly spied on your texts is not going to hold up to well, and law enforcement doesn't have access to NSA top secret level stuff. :rolls eyes:




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