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WARNING! Beware America austerity is coming when a GOP president is elected

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posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
The GOP is the gateway to doom.


Philosophy wise they are just too close the oligarchs


People complain about tax money


Soon you will be subject to being on welfare and food stamps as the people on them now you blame and hate


Then you will understand.


I would ask you again to please give some specific examples of the European austerity of which you wrote in the OP. What policies have they changed and how did the policies affect the average citizen. Specifically, what can we expect if the US follows Europe's lead in this?




posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: TruMcCarthy
Austerity is what the financial elite want. Nevermind about unemployment, falling wages or the outright human suffering caused. Just make sure the bills are paid and our investments are safe.



Spoken like a true Scot
Unfortunately, the US doesn't have someone else to pay the bills for them.

Austerity doesn't need to mean cutting everything, but it definitely needs to have expenditure looked at very thoroughly to see how things can be tightened up.

The issue with "austerity" is that we, as a group, get used to a certain standard of living. More importantly, we lose sight of what standards and services are a necessity, and which are a bonus feature of first world living. All those bonus features are funded through having a healthy economy that can pay for the necessities and still have something left over to spend on the bonuses.

The problem is that we all have very different views on what constitutes a necessity and what constitutes a bonus. For example, "internet access at home" really is not a necessity for 99% of people, but I guarantee someone somewhere will come up with reasons they think justify it being classed that way.
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posted on Jul, 8 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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Darn it. The edit and quote buttons keep deliberately swapping around on me, I swear

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posted on Jul, 9 2015 @ 02:29 AM
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a reply to: EvillerBob
I always like to live up to my national stereotype, hair colour and lack of underpants on formal occasions included.
The US doesn't need someone else to pay its bills. Its own currency (participation the premier reserve currency) gives it a near infinite ability to borrow.
My issue with austerity (for Greece/UK/US whoever) is two fold.
Firstly it is economically illiterate. You simply can't improve a countries economy by cutting spending/ increasing taxes. Any savings to the public purse are quickly offset by the decline in GDP and resulting decline in tax revenues.
Secondly it is a political ideology used to divide people. The not so subtle message is that working people are being taxed to fund the lavish benefit funded lifestyle of the idle. It makes people bitter that someone else is getting something for nothing and ignore how much they themselves are being shafted from above. We should be trying to make working people better off not trying to make those on benefits worse off.
The internet is a good example. I agree that it is not a necessity (however I don't think those on benefits should be limited to necessities), however the DWP is moving to a online only application system for benefits at the same time as cuts to local funding mean fewer libraries so less free public access online.



posted on Aug, 9 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: diggindirt

You're right, congress would not make the cuts where needed. They would cut money for those who need it most and make sure their pockets are padded. That type of austerity I am entirely against.

I just don't wish us to go the way of Greece. Unfortunately I see that happening with the growing popularity of Bernie Sanders. His popularity isn't a bad thing necessarily, he seems to genuinely care about the common man. However it shows a growing trend in America that many are not willing to accept austerity and would rather have a bailout. I predict that he will get elected for this reason. When the economy tanks again it will hurt the poor the most, and instead of blaming the government for interfering too much they will instead blame it on them not doing enough.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

Devistated the UK?

Our economy is the fastest growing in the developed world and our deficiet will be gone in the next few years.

Id say it was a success here.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: asmall89
I'm still trying to get an answer on what specific austerity measures are in store for us?
Despite the all caps WARNING in the title of the thread there is precious little detail telling us exactly what we're being warned away from or toward.
I have a dear friend who immigrated from Greece in 1967 and landed in our town broke and sick. Six years later, after working as a janitor and general handyman, he bought his first business. Today he is among the wealthiest businessmen of our town. He has just arrived back in town from a visit to his hometown to bring an elderly relative to the US. I'm hoping to have lunch with him this week and get his firsthand account of what is happening there.

From the crop of candidates I'm seeing I have little hope of any solution. These folks only know about kicking the can down the road. They don't have an idea amongst them but they surely can say a lot without making a whit of sense.

The sensible thing to do seems to be ready for a crash/disaster of some sort at all times. Whether politician-made or natural disaster, you can bet there is one coming down the road.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 05:47 AM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe
The right has all the cash, and will do whatever they can to protect it. The left thinks everyone should be able to live a decent life, I have no cash, but do enjoy living a decent life, which party would you support?


Right has all the cash? Hillary is expected to spend 2 billion. The cash seems to be with the connected people regardless of a d or r. It's cute you buy into that illusion of the rich republican poor democrat.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

I have been researching the future of jobs and technology. In another thread a poster said it very well also. What are people going to do when most jobs are replaced with technology. There will not be another one to replace it, because there is no end to technology ingenuity. Imagining hunger and homelessness is a lot different from the reality. We will be Forced to go socialism compared to the social programs we have now. I am real concerned about the 30ish age bracket and what their old age will be like.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 06:23 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Willtell

I have been researching the future of jobs and technology. In another thread a poster said it very well also. What are people going to do when most jobs are replaced with technology. There will not be another one to replace it, because there is no end to technology ingenuity. Imagining hunger and homelessness is a lot different from the reality. We will be Forced to go socialism compared to the social programs we have now. I am real concerned about the 30ish age bracket and what their old age will be like.


Better start looking how to eat plants, etc from nature now. Tap a tree for water. Plants for medicine. Etc



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 06:25 AM
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1) What are the 'evils of austerity'

2) Why do you think the current GOP will have the intestinal fortitude to implement it?



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Reallyfolks

That way of life appeals to me. But a lot of people would have to die for nature to be able to keep up with the demand.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

An amazing spin. Citing Greece, et al, who have spent more than they make just to get elected and keep power and blaming TPTB for Greece's troubles? Laughable.

As far as the GOP goes do you see even one candidate spouting "Balanced Budget"? Not a one. They know perfectly well balancing the budget without a massive economy boost will collapse what little is left of this 'economy'.

If you think austerity is spending almost a trillion a year more than you make, then you need to find a dictionary and get the concept defined.

The only possible 'out' from this mess is the ECONOMY. No one is spending time talking about fixing that. Just bitching about billionaires or the Iran deal. Smoke, nothing more, by both sides....



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