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originally posted by: EA006
It's scheduled for 2017 it seems. It would be easier all round for big business if it went straight through Armenia.
originally posted by: PredatorCrackling
a reply to: Xcathdra
You do realise that Putin has 40 brand new nukes
And here you are writing about Armenia and electrical prices from Russia
If I wanted to bash Russia I would focus on bigger stuff.
would crush that Russian backed enclave that both Armenia and Azerbaijan claim.
More articles from the likes of Richard Giragosian and Russia will abandon Armenia. Let American Armenians to foot the bill and fight for their Artzah (Nagorn-Karabach)
However, Russia cannot afford to "abandon" Armenia either.
Russia is selling weapons to both in addition to having a security compact with Armenia.
This is another sign of Russian stupidity to sell bullets which are aimed at your soldiers.
Russia need to invest in high technology or it is toast.
Russia does not, of course, want Azerbaijan (or Turkey) to overrun Armenia. That would create a pan-Turkic corridor from Turkey to Azerbaijan. The U.S. and NATO would use it to dominate the Caucasus, Caspian Sea, and probably Turkic Central Asia.
Artsakh is a different matter. It has no military agreements with Russia. Indeed, Moscow might not care if Azerbaijan overran Artsakh since that, by itself, would not create a pan-Turkic corridor.
Russia might even want a new Artsakh war if it crippled Azerbaijan’s energy infrastructure and destroyed its gas and oil pipelines that lie just north of Artsakh’s borders. Or, depending on what Baku gives Moscow in return, Russia could even help Azerbaijan defeat Artsakh.
After all, post-World War I, Soviet Russia gave Artsakh and Nakhichevan to Azerbaijan, handed Armenian territory to Turkey, and delivered weapons to Turkish forces under Kemal Ataturk.
Turkey later turned against Russia and eventually joined NATO, while Azeris remained hostile to Moscow. Azeris and Turks outsmarted the Russians.
Nevertheless, arms sales to Azerbaijan and Moscow’s massive trade and natural gas deals with Turkey remind Armenians of past Russian betrayals.
To all Russophobes,
The problem with your kind (and I know your kind very well) is that you simply don’t know how to be critical in a “constructive” sense. [you are Armenian after all] All you and your kind do is spread Russophobia without ever putting things you talk about into a proper historical and geopolitical context. Your kind was until very recently very pro-West, pro-American. It had to take the Libya, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine you wake your kind up from your deep stupor. If God forbid Russopbobia EVER goes mainstream in Armenia, the country will simply disappear. If Russians somehow turn against Armenians, not even a million of your Dashnak “warriors” would be able to save Armenia. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to realize any of this, but you do have to have a clear mind. Sadly, most Armenians are too engulfed in their petty world and too distracted by their massive arrogance to see things clearly.
Anyway, you people remind me of the cat that looked in the mirror and saw a lion. God forbid this delusional Cat (i.e. the Armenia that exists in your mind) goes out to play in the real world where hungry wolves roam. God forbid this Cat goes out into the world without the Bear watching after it. The Cat lives today because the Bear has driven the Wolves away from the area where the Cat lives. You people seriously need to stop your foolish “fedayee” nonsense. That fedayee stuff works only against backward peasants (like the Azeris in the early 1990s). The geopolitical circumstances of the region within which Armenia unfortunately finds itself in dictates that we Armenians will be subordinate to Russia. THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVES TO THIS. At least be happy that a neighboring superpower looks at Armenia as an asset and not a nuisance. So, instead of complaining like old women (which is what your kind does best), figure out a way to better lobby Armenian matters in Moscow. In other words, take advantage of the situation Russia’s alliance with Armenia is providing us.
PS: None of you have been able to name one thing that Russians, as a nation, have done against Armenia. Once more, for the hard of hearing: Bolshevism was more destructive to Russia than to Armenia. Bolshevism through the 1920s was almost exclusively a none-Russian political system. For over two hundred years Armenia has lived because of Russia. Had Russia not come down to the south Caucasus in the early 19th century – and stayed – all of us would still be making a living herding goats or making donkey saddles somewhere in eastern Turkey or northern Iran. Wake up.
Russians are decadent and war worn, they SHOULD go to war ... even a nuclear one, for that.
originally posted by: MrSpad
Armenia has sniffed around the EU and NATO before but, they have one big problem with leaving. Azerbaijan along with its good buddies Turkey and Georgia would crush that Russian backed enclave that both Armenia and Azerbaijan claim. Frankly unless they can settle that they simply can not afford to leave Russia no matter what. Then again being tied to Russia ls like trying to swim across a lake a with rock tied to your leg.
Kingdom of Armenia
Christianity began to spread in Armenia soon after Jesus' death, due to the efforts of two of his apostles, St. Thaddeus and St. Bartholomew. In the early 4th century, the Kingdom of Armenia became the first state to adopt Christianity as a state religion.
People need to see why Russia does not like the west much
Another trash Russia thread by the same members, talking about countries they never been or tried to understand instead spend their days finding faults with them with vast amount of knowledge drawn from bbc and fox news. Its almost comical now, keyboard warriors.