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By seeing for the first time how these eddies accelerate the jet streams at two different altitudes, scientists found the eddies were weak at the higher altitudes where previous researchers had found that most of the sun's heating occurs. The eddies were stronger deeper in the atmosphere. Thus, the authors could discount heating from the sun and infer instead that the internal heat of the planet is ultimately driving the acceleration of the jet streams, not the sun. The mechanism that best matched the observations would involve internal heat from the planet stirring up water vapor from Saturn's interior. That water vapor condenses in some places as air rises and releases heat as it makes clouds and rain. This heat provides the energy to create the eddies that drive the jet streams.
The condensation of water was not actually observed; most of that process occurs at lower altitudes not visible to Cassini. But the condensation in mid-latitude storms does happen on both Saturn and Earth. Storms on Earth – the low- and high-pressure centers on weather maps – are driven mainly by the sun's heating and do not mainly occur because of the condensation of water, Del Genio said. On Saturn, the condensation heating is the main driver of the storms, and the sun's heating is not important.
Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only 30 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator
The discovery of the wave pattern is the result of a 22-year campaign observing Saturn from Earth (the longest study of temperature outside Earth ever recorded), and the Cassini spacecraft's observations of temperature changes in the giant planet's atmosphere over time.
New data has revealed that the heliosphere, the protective shield of energy that surrounds our solar system, has weakened by 25 per cent over the past decade and is now at it lowest level since the space race began 50 years ago. Scientists are baffled at what could be causing the barrier to shrink in this way and are to launch mission to study the heliosphere.
originally posted by: mortex
Is this the reason I keep getting these annoying two day long headaches every so often?
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Informer1958
Prove it! and you cant prove Nibiru is not in our orbit unless you use disinformation. I know it is behind our sun as we speak it is in the 4 clock position right. According to amateur astronomers it will be seen by the whole world by November this year.
Just a heads up, ATS is one place that people come to find out if fantastic scientific claims are valid or not.
Phage is one of those long time residents that has proven his knowledge time and again (especially about all things celestial).
Word of advice, you best just listen to what he has offer, you are fortunate enough to have his attention.
I would add that i am not against all of Phage's often well thought out arguments as much as i am for not just saying "CAN"T BE" as quickly as he seems to do.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Justoneman
When it comes to beliefs yah sure, everything subjective, but if it comes facts Phage is goto. I get peeved because its the challenge by ignorant people who feel miffed because he disagrees with their beliefs and that has made him seek alternative venues of late.
So sad. We need people like him here, not children who can't or won't learn.