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originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: onequestion
We can't truly build Utopia because not all have the same motivation. This is a compromise that gets us close and incentives that encourage the builders to keep building.
I like competition and incentives for hard work. And I want to make more then the person below me in the chain of command. I love Capitalism, it is a fun game until greed sets in, then it becomes insanity. If we control the greed we control the insanity.
Competition and Cooperation can work together. We don't need to be one or the other. We can be both and live harmoniously.
originally posted by: Parthin96
Your "controlled capitalism" is unworkable. We have those "social commodoties" already. You seem to not understand exactly what eugentics is, or was. I seriously doubt involuntary eugentics will ever be practiced in America again. We're going to move gradually into genetically-engineered babies.
a reply to: Isurrender73
originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: infolurker
It can only be accomplished through self sacrifice.
originally posted by: Isurrender73
Their are only 2 roads for the Existentialist, Genetics or Ideology. If it is genetics then you must accept Eugenics. If it is Ideology shouldn't it be Love?
Whether you believe that Love is devine or not, Love is a better Ideology then any form of Forced Ideology. In the spiritual texts forced conversions to one's law is forbidden. The religious texts are non-totalitarian.
If some want test tube babies, that is a matter of the flesh, the majority can decide if we allow science to intervene. If 51% want test tube babies why would we stand in the way? This should be voted on. But even if only one couple remains that wish to procreate by natural means, this should remain protected.
For the existentialist, even if mankind moves towards Eugenics we should not infringe upon the rights of a couple to leave procreation as a matter of faith. You would no more want their religious views imposed on you then they want your exestentialist views imposed on them.
In order to satisfy the different personalities I think we need a new form of Government.
"Freemarket Social Democracy" The market will be separated into Capital Commodities and Social Commodities.
1. Capital Commodities
They will be run by Controlled Capitalism, regulated by a min wage, a maximum wage, maximum total individual monetary wealth, and corporate monetary assets not to exceed X% of Gross. All other non environmental aspects will be left to free trade.
2. Social Commodities
These will be run by, "Social Capitalism". Human rights to basic food, shelter and medical services. Social programs will be run in the same way Capital programs are run. They will be for profit entities. However they are social programs so they will be run by elected experts, not politicians. Some elected positions should come with prerequisites of having served in the industry. Just like in the regular job market.
They will run exactly like a for profit organization, however their pay will be regulated by the people, and the profits returned to us. And we will demand our elected leaders to cut the costs and labor associated until our scientists are satisfied we have reached our current technological limits.
Specialty food items, free standing single homes with land, and non essential medical procedures will remain in a wage regulated Free Market Social Democracy.
I am tired of hearing we can't build Utopia. We haven't even tried. How can the existentialist not build Utopia and How can the faithful not believe in it?
Anyone who says we can't build Utopia is faithless. No faith in yourself and certainly no faith in God. We can build Utopia because we have freewill & God is on our side.
We don't have to fight for Utopia, we need to vote for it. Then we will build what the majority call Utopia.
If we need to protect the Faithful from Eugenics, and protect the Existentialist from the Faithful, then we will do that also.
It is ok to have different opinions, it makes us stronger and wiser. The Ideology of Love and Reason will unite us without forced conversions. Love will allow for the democratic process, because Love agrees to dissagee for the sake of peace. And peace is a better ideology then judgment.
Some say we are destined for destruction, I say we have freewill!
A prayer of Peace to all mankind on this independence day. May freewill, logic and reason prevail over insanity.