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The Biggest Lie of All - (Videos)

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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: TheDon
a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Apart from the video were you have commented on just one point out many.

I would like to know, how you would debunk my other post HERE as well.

No rush, quite happy to wait and go through all the points in the OP plus the other video as well, as long as we both are presenting facts and sources and not just opinions :-)


I see a comment from Ky michaelson stating the rocket was launched at 7:32 am. At that time on July 14, 2014, the Moon was at about 7.9 degrees above the horizon as viewed from Las Vegas.

I'm not sure what you're on about with this. What do you have to add?

ETA: aa.usno.navy.mil...
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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: grimpachi
HAHA... It would be kind of cool if the earth was flat because NASA could just fly their ships of the ends of the earth instead of launching huge rockets straight up.


Actually anyone with a plane could. Wouldn't that be interesting?


Rockets don't launch straight up as it is. They may be straight right at launch, but they soon after (once they gain some altitude) they begin to turn and assume a trajectory that is more parallel to the ground.

Considering a spacecraft needs to me moving parallel to the ground in order to remain in orbit, that trajectory makes sense.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Yeah I know, but TMI would probably confuse a lot of people.

Considering the subject and some of the audience going into things like a gravity turn would probably make some heads hurt.

lol



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation

After looking at the information that you provided and also the time off the launch, plus the location, it would seem the youtuber is incorrect and actually the moon was actually nearer 9 degrees above the horizon. Also if one takes takes the altitude of the rocket into consideration as well, then the moon would be viable based upon supplied data.

Debunked and i agree based on the information supplied.

How about my other question concerning the launch.



Also to add another comment regarding this video. The rocket was launched to an altitude of aprox 120km and yet the rocket came back to earth and was recovered 3km, yes 3km away from the launch site! And all this happened on what we are told is a globe that is spinning at 1600km at the equator, and we are told as well that our atmosphere is dragged around at a constant speed with the earth no matter the height or distance from the ground.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: TheDon


How about my other question concerning the launch.

What do we know about the trajectories involved?

This seems like a "Why doesn't a ball go flying off when tossed in the air'' type question. For that matter, why don't we feel the force of the motion when simply standing? Because we ourselves are not moving/accelerated relative to the atmosphere around us except for wind for instance.

Maybe one of the more scientifically literate members can do better for you on this one.

ETA: You might find this interesting en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation
I am familiar with the Coriolis effect and Newtons law of motion.

Which in my opinion is questionable and in itself could lead to a very big debate in itself.

Does it prove either way that we live on a globe or not by itself, NO IMO



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: TheDon
What do you suppose causes the effect to be directionally opposite in the northern and southern hemispheres and nil smallest at the equator?


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posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation
The Coriolis effect, which I take it you are talking about again, in itself would and does not prove that we live on a globe presented as fact to all.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: TheDon
You didn't answer the question. Didn't even try. You must understand how evasive this makes you appear.

What is your next best evidence for whatever flat/domed/shape du jour Earth 'theory' you have?



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation



What is your next best evidence for whatever flat/domed/shape du jour Earth 'theory' you have?

You watched the videos in the OP and the one a few pages back regarding coincidences?

Also for the last time, I am not trying to prove nor was this thread about proving another theory, it is about question what is provided as fact regarding the globe model.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: TheDon
Be honest. Questioning for what purpose? To 'prove' the Earth is anything but spheroidical (is that a word?).

You really are taking the long way around here. If you could understand the evidence for the shape of the Earth being basically a sphere, you wouldn't be so bothered by this ''Whack a Mole'' type game played by the ignorant perps of FE 'theory'.



posted on Jul, 11 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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The pattern here is a simple one.

The OP posts something, is proved wrong, tells the people that prove them wrong that they are wrong and accepted science is junk, whilst making out that they are the only source of truth.


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posted on Jul, 12 2015 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation



Be honest. Questioning for what purpose? To 'prove' the Earth is anything but spheroidical (is that a word?).

I have been honest. I am questioning the facts regarding what we are told about were we live, because anyone with an open mind would see there are many contradictions.

As I have said already to you, many of these facts that are questionable can be seen in the videos I have posted.

Now if you don't agree or believe this then fine.



posted on Jul, 12 2015 @ 01:23 AM
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a reply to: neformore
None of that is true that you have stated, and i don't appreciate the personal attacks, especially since I have also posted this topic in Skunk works.

I addressed your previous post regarding the videos, and this is how you come back because you don't like the answers?
Hmm, why even bother taking part in this thread?

Try discussing the content of the OP instead of attacking those that do not think or believe what you do.



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posted on Jul, 12 2015 @ 04:09 AM
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originally posted by: TheDon
What if it is a globe, but 100% larger than we are told, and land masses are hidden for example.


That's an idea I really find interesting!

Parts about Admiral Byrd and the missions in the Antarctic don't add up to me...



posted on Jul, 12 2015 @ 05:42 AM
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The OP posts something, is proved wrong, tells the people that prove them wrong that they are wrong and accepted science is junk, whilst making out that they are the only source of truth.


Amazing isn't it.



posted on Jul, 12 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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Bunkum or not, I really do find watching these flat-earth videos quite fascinating and stimulating.

The reality is, if you taught flat-earth to the population, 99.9% of of us are going to believe it fervently and unquestionably, as was the case in the past.

If you taught globe-earth to the population, 99.9% of us are going to believe it fervently and unquestionably as, well, the majority do...

I haven't personally gone out of my way to confirm for myself that the world is a globe, but I am strongly compelled to believe as much. Psychology's leverage really is underestimated generally I feel.

I suppose a grand conspiracy is, barely, within the realm of possibility. Conspiracy porn I guess



posted on Jul, 12 2015 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: voided




The reality is, if you taught flat-earth to the population, 99.9% of of us are going to believe it fervently and unquestionably, as was the case in the past. If you taught globe-earth to the population, 99.9% of us are going to believe it fervently and unquestionably as, well, the majority do...

A very good point



posted on Jul, 13 2015 @ 01:02 AM
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originally posted by: TheDon

Point 6. Flights do go round or near to the south pole, but as I stated above, aviation practices dicatte that it is not a common procedure.

Proof?
Because there is more proof on line that that statement is not true.
There is proof though that if you follow the so called flights on any number of flight tracking sites, what you do see that in the southern hemisphere, that flights disappear shortly after leaving land mass only to re appear once again when nearly at there destination.


Anyway, the links on wiki say that the trajectory of those flights go more than 3100 km from the south pole so it's still can't be considered flights over the south pole.



posted on Jul, 14 2015 @ 08:35 AM
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originally posted by: theMediator

originally posted by: ngchunter
There is no change, that's the whole point. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO SEE!


How could there be no change in the size of the sun if it's farther away from the earth?

It would just be totally impossible...sure maybe with only our eyes we can't see the difference but to say there is ZERO size difference, now that's even more absurd than flat earth thories.

If earth were flat then the change would be easily detectable. That's the whole point. I don't understand why the mods are removing my posts but freely allow this hoax to continue. Why can I not lay down a challenge for this poster?



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