It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: seentoomuch
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: seentoomuch
In the mean time I won't be holding my breath.
oh, please do.
Look quick Autumnwitch, over there, it's a nun if you hurry you can go harass her . . . .
STM
On topic: I hope that you, Jim Oberg and Zaphod meet them in person. And the OP is right and it is just the beginning imho . . .
So, I could send up a spy satelite and nobody would mind? and before you say it, any thing in space with a camera is a possible spy.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: VoidHawk
And as Jim pointed out, there are at least half a dozen private companies that can do the same thing now. Is the military tied in with them too?
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: VoidHawk
What about countries that don't answer to us or our military? The United states doesn't own space and can't tell other countries what they can or cannot look at from up there. Much as they may want to.
originally posted by: seentoomuch
Just one lie from NASA off the top of my head was the infamous, "Can't point Hubble at the Moon, it's too bright" hahahha and then "Here's Hubble's photos of the Moon". ....
I learned quickly that there are a lot of misconceptions about the orbiting observatory.
One of the most frequent is that it can’t observe the Moon, because our natural satellite is too bright. Trying to snap a shot of it would damage Hubble’s detectors.
That’s not true. Well, not totally true. Some cameras on HST are very sensitive, and could be damaged if pointed to a bright source. The ultraviolet camera I worked on was so sensitive it would fry if it looked some kinds of stars too faint to even see with the naked eye!
But other cameras are just fine with bright sources, and that includes the Advanced Camera for Surveys.
....So there you go. The Moon is not too bright for Hubble.
Funny though, it is hard to observe by HST, but that’s actually because it’s moving too fast in the sky. Hubble isn’t designed to track that quickly, so what they do to observe it is put it in “ambush mode”: Aim Hubble in the sky where the Moon will soon be, then wait. When the Moon moves in, Hubble grabs the snapshot. This has been done many times, actually (like in 1999 and 2005).
originally posted by: VoidHawk
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: VoidHawk
And the military doesn't have that exact same ability on its own?
Thats not my point!
My point is NASA have that ability! and that makes them an extreme security risk. I really do not think the military would ignore that, and the only way they could control that risk would be if they were integrated into it.
originally posted by: VoidHawk
So, I could send up a spy satelite and nobody would mind? and before you say it, any thing in space with a camera is a possible spy.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: VoidHawk
And as Jim pointed out, there are at least half a dozen private companies that can do the same thing now. Is the military tied in with them too?
Those private companies have VERY strict rules they must obey, and if they stray where they're not allowed they'd be arrested. The only way they could avoid such an event is if they are instructed by the military on what is allowed, and hence, the military must be involved with them.
originally posted by: jonnywhite...
Jim Oberg, why do you waste your time?? Do'nt be stupid. You cannot eliminate skepticism or distrust. My distrust of NASA cannot be erased, returned or forfeited, or otherwise replaced by trust.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Stormie
Jeff Newmark, NASA’s Interim Director of Heliophysics, said it’s a matter of “when, not if” when it comes to discovering life beyond Earth.
wwlp.com...
NASA Openly Admits Alien Life could exist , there is a difference.