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Kentucky clerk sued for not issuing gay-marriage licenses

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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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Four Kentucky couples are suing a clerk who is refusing to issue gay-marriage licenses — or any marriage licenses at all — following the U.S. Supreme Court decision that same-sex couples have a legal right to marry. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis told The Associated Press that her Christian beliefs prevented her from complying with the decision, so she decided to issue no more marriage licenses to any couple, gay or straight.


Davis is among a handful of judges and clerks across the South who have defied the high court's order.

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Well, it isn't as if we didn't know this and other civil disobedience stunts were coming. Of course, she could just resign her position, but that would prevent her from making a media fiasco out of it. Simply put folks. If the law is getting in the way of doing your job. Find a different line of work. If you're in public service, we will hold you to a higher standard than the average Joe or Jill.
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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Well, I hate to say it was expected but...

What happens if a state refuses to abide by a SCOTUS ruling?



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: Klassified

Well, I hate to say it was expected but...

What happens if a state refuses to abide by a SCOTUS ruling?


They have and lost.

From what I've followed all states and counties are now in compliance.

I'm sure a selected few will still try to pull something, but it's a done deal.

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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: Annee
There are some holdouts, though. What can the feds do? Sanction them? lol.
Most states to abide...

There are still a few holdouts, as various politicians take firm stands against a 5-to-4 high court decision they argue is revisionist, or illegal even.

Texas
Alabama
Arkansas
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
North Dakota
Ohio
South Dakota
Tennessee

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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Kentucky isn't the only state where people in authority have declared a moratorium on marriage licenses. I was just wondering what will happen if these states continue to refuse even after the appeal period is over.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Klassified
Yep. There are unemployed people who would gladly do her job.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Annee
There are some holdouts, though. What can the feds do? Sanction them? lol.
Most states to abide...

There are still a few holdouts, as various politicians take firm stands against a 5-to-4 high court decision they argue is revisionist, or illegal even.



It's kind of a day-by-day update.

I'm following it on HRC/MARRIAGE (Human Rights Campaign -- Marriage Center).

www.hrc.org...





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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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Just fire the clerk for not doing there job, all this is going to do is create more oh pity us christians.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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my personal opinion is that they are all afraid of homosexuality turning out to be a smash hit in their neck of the woods. gets awfully lonely out there.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Klassified

Yep. There are unemployed people who would gladly do her job.


I think the County Clerk is an elected position.

These cases will be interesting because the Petitioners will have to show the laws that actually say a County must issue a marriage license. They have to prove a license is an entitlement.

Does anybody know any such laws?




posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: Klassified

Well, I hate to say it was expected but...

What happens if a state refuses to abide by a SCOTUS ruling?


They tried that during desegregation. Where the Governor of Alabama personally blocked two black children from entering a school, until the Alabama National Guard moved him by order of JFK. In the future these sorts of people will be looked at with same sort disgust that people look back on those that tried to block desegregation. When you end up on the wrong side of history, you end up harshly judged.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: Klassified

Well, I hate to say it was expected but...

What happens if a state refuses to abide by a SCOTUS ruling?

Marriage license is a state ran process. Regardless of a SP ruling (they cannot create laws , only adjudicate them) they can halt the entire marriage license process . Or change it completely .


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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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So if a gay person stands up for what they believe in to the point they could lose their job they are an inspiration...

But if another person stands up for their religious beliefs to the point where they could lose their job they are a bigot and should be dealt.......

nice to see all the tolerance going around



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Do you have an example of gay person standing in the way of some ones civil rights?

That would be the context here.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Oh poor us mentality, do there job or get fired, not too hard to understand.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
Here's an interesting article that goes into your question...

So if the question is whether or not a clerk can flatly refuse to issue same-sex marriage licenses from his office, the answer is no. "That's a place where someone would litigate, and that's where contempt would come into the picture,"

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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Do you have an example of gay person standing in the way of some ones civil rights?

That would be the context here.


You mean like shutting down businesses and getting the state involved to fine them hundreds of thousands of dollars because they didnt bake a cake because it was against their religious beliefs? Or trying to shut down a pizza joint?

Id say thats a violation of constitutional rights

Try google



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Government official vs private entity, really thats the same, face palm moment right there.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Oh poor us mentality, do there job or get fired, not too hard to understand.


whos is "us" youre trying to lump me in a box, im actually in favor of people being able to marry whoever they want....

That doesnt mean I dont stand on principle and call hypocrisy when I see it........

funny , if other groups threw out the "poor us mentality" line towards gay people youd be up in arms.......

Seems people like you have no problem violating others rights as long as it fits your agenda



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
So if a gay person stands up for what they believe in to the point they could lose their job they are an inspiration...

But if another person stands up for their religious beliefs to the point where they could lose their job they are a bigot and should be dealt.......

nice to see all the tolerance going around

Homosexuality is not a belief religion is a belief. A person doesn't choose to be gay but anyone that is religious chooses to be religious. And seeing how this person who took it upon themselves to choose not to issue any marriage license at all then she should be fired for not doing her job.



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