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originally posted by: ADUB77
Things are not going to improve. Like many have already said, if you don't learn skills that have value and separate you from the others than you will receive minimum wage.
It is unfortunate that many middle class jobs have disappeared and now there are more "losers" in this capitalist system. At the end of the day you either accept those facts and try harder knowing what is at stake or you give up.
I have worked over 20 jobs and I am not 30 years old. I will say currently the worst industry in my area is automotive manufacturing. It pays minimum wage on a temporary basis. These jobs are strenuous on the body and torture on the mind. 10 years ago these jobs payed 25+$/hr, full benefits, and full pension.
originally posted by: Puppylove
The worst jobs were the fast food, your position is precarious, your worth is next to none, you need to react to a constantly changing atmosphere, you need to know multiple drastically different positions, your schedule is all over the place, you're pushed to rush, rush, rush, while trying to work around others, and react to constantly changing orders.
originally posted by: jellyrev
I work construction as well. I had one employer who'd give nearly anyone a chance. But most people are not worth a darn, and quit or were fired after a few months.
The work is out there, most just want a cushy office job where they work 40 hours but do about 10 hours of actual work.
No one forced these people to apply at the fat food place, plus many will get .gov assistance for such a low wage.
fast food keeps going up in price while restaurants seem to be staying the same. I now can get the same meal for the same price at a sit down, and it is actual food. There is no way they will be able to compete at 15 per hour.
Lastly when one goes to the store look at a good portion of the food and textiles, some poor farmer and poor laborer made those at a wage not even comparable to min wage.
That's because you are expendable. If you can't handle it then they can easily find a high schooler to take your place because it is menial labor that almost anyone can do. McDonalds doesn't need to offer you steady hours with high pay and great benefits because there is somebody who will do your job without being offered those things.
originally posted by: OrdoAdChao
a reply to: AbstractDreamz
Why are jobs meant for someone?
Because the market determined it so.
How does the economy determine that people of a certain age group should fill these jobs with the intent to learn something and be paid next to nothing for it? How is this so?
Again, market forces. If the job had any high level of skill, it wouldnt have the turnover rate or the low wages.
To me, it seems like it is an implanted idea for businesses to profit greatly off of people. I am not saying that a business shouldn't profit, but when it profits from outright exploitation of a certain groups circumstance, isn't that, well, bad business? Why should someone grow fat off of anyone else? How is this in any way fair?
You do realize these fast food joints are franchisees correct, these aren't corporate owned? These guys don't make what you think they do and they surely couldn't hire the same amount of employees at the perceived 15.00 living wage.
And before the obvious retort that life isn't fair, think about this: If we base our entire existence in a society on this idea, then we will always be in the world of haves and have-nots, and it will inevitably fall into an aristocratic nightmare where people will always view themselves above others, when in the cold hard reality of the universe, we are all equally worthless. We create the misery as a society, the individual rarely creates their own misery.
I disagree with you here, the individual often creates their own misery. Only to pass off blame onto others for their own terrible choices. The cold hard reality of life is that the world is full of haves and have-nots, not everyone would be successful, but they may be successful in their family which is a far greater accomplishment than monetary value.
How can we ever hope to grow as a specie of individuals who operate the best as a society when there will always be the down-trodden, and those who step upon them? Is this necessary? I don't believe so, and the simple fact of human greed and want to be above the next is the problem.
Necessary, no...Inevitable, yes.
We are all being slowly digested in an amoral universe; what makes others so much more special that to decrease their own misery, they increase the misery of others? We will all die, and those riches do not carry with us, as much as many would hope that they do. Misery is a mindset, Ive known rich who have died unhappy and poor who have died happy.
I believe humans are simply clever apes, yet we can envision ourselves as better than that. Law of the jungle is fine when we're in the jungle, but we're not unless we bring those laws into our current situation. These attitudes delude us and harm us and happen to be the existential threat of our times.
The existential threat of our time is that we have far to many people who want to believe in some Utopian culture and human decency that will never exist, period. Not trying to be cruel, but it just won't happen.