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Polygamist family applies for 2nd marriage license in Montana...

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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 05:57 PM
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"And so it begins". (Sorry. Couldn't resist.)

An excommunicated Mormon wants to test the limits of a suggestion by Chief Justice John Roberts, who posited that the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling on gay marriage could open the door to the legalization of bigamy. Nathan Collier married his wife, Victoria, 15 years back and also wants to be legally hitched to his second longtime partner Christine.



Collier says he'll take action to challenge the state law if he’s denied that second marriage license.

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Well, that didn't take long. This possibility has been discussed today in this thread by Krazyshot, and here we are. My guess is this guy will lose, but it was a long fight for the LGBT community as well. It may take a while, but I'm betting in the future, polygamy(bigamy) will be as accepted as gay marriage.

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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Answer me this. What influence was running the USA that made Mormons give up Polygamy to join the union?

Why were Mormons not protected by Religious Freedom?

(Mormon women also had to give up the right to vote)



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Klassified

Answer me this. What influence was running the USA that made Mormons give up Polygamy to join the union?

Why were Mormons not protected by Religious Freedom?

(Mormon women also had to give up the right to vote)

Good question. I would say the answer might be Dominionist Christianity.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?

None that I know of. Bigamy is illegal in the U.S.

ETA: There is this case from 2013, but it still does not allow one person to be married to multiple partners.

A federal judge ruled late Friday that a key section of Utah law criminalizing polygamy is unconstitutional, granting multi-spouse families the right to live together without facing arrest, so long as they do not acquire multiple marriage licenses.

Sister wives defeat polygamy law in federal court
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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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This'll be fun to watch!



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
This'll be fun to watch!




That's what I'm thinkin!



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
Bigamy is illegal in the U.S.


See? This is the difference. Being gay isn't illegal. This will go nowhere.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?


NO.

It is allowed in some places by turning away - - so to speak.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Klassified
Bigamy is illegal in the U.S.


See? This is the difference. Being gay isn't illegal. This will go nowhere.


How about this one:




The court considered that if polygamy was allowed, someone might eventually argue that human sacrifice was a necessary part of their religion, and "to permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself."

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Klassified

Answer me this. What influence was running the USA that made Mormons give up Polygamy to join the union?

Why were Mormons not protected by Religious Freedom?

(Mormon women also had to give up the right to vote)

Good question. I would say the answer might be Dominionist Christianity.


Hidden behind a judges robe.

Yes, I agree. Reading the arguments is kinda scary.


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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:17 PM
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Can you imagine being married to two people? Imagine being as close as you are right now with your spouse with a second person? Feel that one for a minute?



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Klassified
Bigamy is illegal in the U.S.


See? This is the difference. Being gay isn't illegal. This will go nowhere.

Bigamy is, but polygamy polyamory is not(See my ETA above). Though I agree this case will go no where. I also think with time, bigamy will be legalized.
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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:23 PM
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So if they are just applying for a second license, then at the present only one woman and one man are married now; so there is no polygomy.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:24 PM
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I always thought a bigamist was an Italian fogbank.

If all 3 (or more) are consenting adults, I don't see the issue.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
So if they are just applying for a second license, then at the present only one woman and one man are married now; so there is no polygomy.

Polygamy Polyamory is multiple partners. Bigamy is being married to multiple partners. Legally, there's a difference. See my post above about Sister Wives. link
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ETA: My mistake on the terms being used.
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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:26 PM
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I've yet to see a good argument as to why a person can't marry more than one person.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Annee

LDS banned the practice of polygamy in 1890. Significantly less than half of Mormons practiced it.

And, in a suit against the U.S., SCOTUS ruled that while the law may not interfere with one's beliefs and opinions, the law may interfere with some practices.

So...human sacrifice probably isn't going to fly.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

So...human sacrifice probably isn't going to fly.


Crap!



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Klassified
Bigamy is illegal in the U.S.


See? This is the difference. Being gay isn't illegal. This will go nowhere.


Oh, I think you are sooooo wrong.

It will happen now, because they can now claim discrimination against polygamists, a sexual orientation, bisexuality and why can't a bisexual marry both a man and a woman if they want to.




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