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Pentagon wants a drug so that soldiers don't feel fear of death.

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posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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People say the military will not fight it's own citizens if TSHF, how about a drugged military?




posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

I never would've made it to PT if they were handing out cannabis and I probably would've got in trouble for repeatedly trying to go through the chow line twice.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
People say the military will not fight it's own citizens if TSHF, how about a drugged military?

That is something to think about.
I guess if I was leading troops that were drugged up enough to kill their own countrymen, I might be afraid that they would kill me.

Then again... they didn't need drugs to have brothers kill brothers in the US Civil War.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: peter vlar

True.

A lot of the drugs employed back in those days were still mostly experimental, and a lot more ruthless in their effects.

I think a sedative that stimulates introspection and docility would be more effective than any of the more unpredictable psycho-actives. That's the problem with most of them seeing as how they are entirely reactive to the individual psyche of the subject and some subconscious makeups can become abjectly terrifying.

Ingestion of said chemicals can worsen a preexisting dormancy or else stimulate and act as a catalyst for aggressiveness and permanent dissociation from reality because the subject is projecting their own subconscious fears onto the outside world indefinitely. Granted, not everyone experiences this horrifying layover, but I have met my fair share of people who became permanently messed up because of experimentation with said substances.

I think Cavtrooper7 has the right idea.

I've never met a stoner who was actively and dangerously aggressive under the effects of natural marijuana...well, aside from constantly advocating the legalization of the plant when not under it's influence, but we would just have to ensure that no one maliciously tampered with the plant in it's natural state prior - no strange hybridization or lacing with other substances.

Maybe we should stop dropping bombs and start dropping bongs and "care packages" with healthy snacks that are in line with the target cultures dietary preferences and some good laid back music from their culture highlighting the more gentle aspects of their cultural philosophies.

Oh gosh dang it....my inner hippie is on a tear again.
Sorry about that.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: vonclod
People say the military will not fight it's own citizens if TSHF, how about a drugged military?

That is something to think about.
I guess if I was leading troops that were drugged up enough to kill their own countrymen, I might be afraid that they would kill me.


And therein lies the fine line... drugged up enough to still follow orders but not too high that they will turn on everyone including their superiors and brothers in arms. It hasn't worked in the past during trials and I fear for what DARPA comes up with next in this grand scheme.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: mikegrouchy

Fear of whose death is the question.

“Nearly for the past year, there hasn’t been a single collateral death, because of the exceptional proficiency, precision of the capabilities that we’ve been able to develop.”

His claim and similar official ones like it are, politely put, hyperbolic. “You Never Die Twice,” a new report by Jennifer Gibson of Reprieve, a British-based human rights organization, settles the question quickly by showing that some men on the White House “kill list” of terror suspects to be taken out have “’died’ as many as seven times.”

Gibson adds, “We found 41 names of men who seemed to have achieved the impossible. This raises a stark question. With each failed attempt to assassinate a man on the kill list, who filled the body bag in his place?” In fact, Reprieve discovered that, in going after those 41 “targets” numerous times, an estimated 1,147 people were killed in Pakistan by drones. Typical was the present leader of al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri. In two strikes against “him” over the years, according to Reprieve, 76 children and 29 adults have died, but not al-Zawahiri.
www.salon.com...
www.reprieve.org...

As a drone pilot you see multiple innocent men women and children die by your hand while the mouthpieces claim every shot you took was straight to the heart of the bad guy.

It's going to take some strong drugs to hide that reality.

Modern warfare doesn't work. It was sold by salesmen who are now on a sunny beach. I've a message for the salesmen.
drones acomin' to getcha...BOOOOM


Is it possible that, like their victims in Pakistan and Yemen who say that they are going mad from the constant buzz of drones overhead and the fear of sudden death without warning, drone pilots, too, are fleeing into the night as soon as they can?


Modern warfare died with Falcon. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Honour. The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right.

Drugs. A way of hiding from honour.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: HUMBLEONE

So did Spitfire pilots in WW2.

www.videojug.com...


So what are you saying, the RAF bought drugs from the NAZI's?



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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Just use the same stuff General Butt Naked used.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: PredatorCrackling

People who know the military know it isn't a good time to join, and long-time military folks are leaving. Way too many changes. This one doesn't surprise me at all.

No, not anti-military - veteran (peacetime), and wife of a carer soldier who, yes, is leaving.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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The Zulu used magic mushrooms to give them the idea of not being able to be shot.......



posted on Jul, 6 2015 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Peter vlar

SURE you could I DID.
Moderation and discipline of course so it didn't interfere with tasking...
edit on 6-7-2015 by cavtrooper7 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 6 2015 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
The Nazis used amphetamines. I guess we've reached that level of depravity.


Ether washed pure crystal methamphetamine will make one do and act fearless.



posted on Jul, 7 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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I wonder if the VA will pay for ,WHATEVER long term effects of using such drugs ,would cause?



posted on Jul, 16 2015 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: PredatorCrackling

Pentagon wants a drug so that soldiers don't feel fear of death.

is this doing the soldiers a favor or is it an insult. - come one come all, hurry quickly, more stupid lambs to the slaughter.

Two small quotes from the book Silent Weapons For Quiet War.

The draft (selective service, etc.) is an institution of compulsory collective sacrifice and
slavery, devised by the middle-aged and elderly for the purpose of pressing the young into
doing the public dirty work. It further serves to make the youth as guilty as the elders, thus
making criticism of the elders by the youth less likely (Generational Stabilizer). It is
marketed and and sold to the public under the label of "patriotic = national" service.

Factor VI - Cattle
Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains, and
so this mindless school of jelly-fish, father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful
beasts of burden or trainers of the same.



posted on Jul, 18 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: PredatorCrackling

That ones Easy , 15 Beers and a Couple of Quaaludes would make Any Bar Patron or Soldier become Fearless of Death even when they are getting their Ass Kicked by an Enemy or the Guy who's Girlfriend they were just Hitting on ....




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