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originally posted by: jgarcya
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: sailormon
Thank-you for replying, Sailormon. This thread you started is indeed fascinating. But the posts from everyone leave me with more questions than answers. I have always assumed that our purpose for being alive on Earth is to HELP OTHERS have a more enjoyable life whenever and wherever possible. Yet from what I'm reading here, perhaps SELF improvement and SELF enlightenment should be our top priority?
you understand the necessary tools .... they are not either or....but one of the same...the opposites making the whole....
ultimately it is compassion....it is maximized through your efforts of self actualization...and spiritual growth.....
if given the choice...go with compassion....others over self....
to maximize your understanding of compassion....do self exploration and spiritual work...or as you say self improvement..and self enlightenment...
for me this is the key to a happy existence for me ....and through my compassion...others around me.....
you are wise...
originally posted by: Layaly
I've been close, and I saw nothing.
Imagine being devoid of all senses
originally posted by: iFloButtaLike my young mind began wandering or traveling as if it was normal for me. But then, before I could stop, my mind was pulled into something dark and endless. I was absolutely terrified and my body would be screaming and saying very weird nonsense (my parents later told me about the things I would say while they would calmly try to wake me)
However, my mind was flying at unfathomable speeds towards infinite darkness completely unaware of my real earth body. I had no memory of an identity (probably because it would happen just as I fall asleep), but I was just an entity traveling. The speed and the feeling of traveling into this almost black hole type thing would absolutely terrify me. Fear that I knowIi would never experience anywhere again.
originally posted by: grainofsand
I don't buy it sorry.
Sounds like a N,N-Dimethyltryptamine moment. OOBE tales are the new religion, and equally lacking in any evidence.
originally posted by: fossilera
a reply to: Layaly
No it's alright - When I say "Devil's Advocate", I mean I will say or do something that usually is different different from what I normally say. An opposing viewpoint.
Basically, all I was saying was that I have heard stories of people that ended their life while projecting, but it was because they chose to do it themselves, not because they couldn't make it back to the body.