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Supreme Court extends same-sex marriage nationwide

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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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Congratulations and Thankyou to the folk involved with this.

Today the USA has done something truly enlightened and given equality to all of it's citizens on this matter.




posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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I just wanted to express happiness with this decision by the U.S. Supreme Court.

As a 20 y.o. straight transsexual woman (or as I prefer: woman born differently), I have always had the right to marry my high school sweetheart in this country.

It is worth mentioning that while you will often see the term LGBT (or GLBT) in connection with the marriage equality movement, us T's have always had the right to marry but have typically supported this movement so that this day would finally arrive.

It's WONDERFUL and we all should celebrate that freedom won today. Love won today.


I only hope that now that this issue has been resolved that the same Gays and Lesbians (and their Straight allies) support those of us who are Transsexual or Transgender as we continue our struggle for equal treatment in other areas which are just as important for the realization of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".

What might that be you ask?

Today it is still perfectly legal in much of the country to discriminate against those who are Transsexual or Transgender in very basic, jaw dropping ways.

Though Gays, Lesbians and Bisexual as well as straight people all now have the same right to marry, I could still be:


- Excluded from joining a the U.S. Military.

- Denied a job in many states which do not explicitly mention gender identity in their employment non-discrimination laws.

- Denied housing in many states which do not explicitly mention gender identity in their fair housing laws.

- Locked up in the male section of a jail if charged with a crime and if convicted, sent to a male prison in states which do not recognize transsexual or transgender women as female even if all their other paperwork (driver's license, birth certificate, etc) say they are.

- Barred from adoption in states which do not explicitly list gender identity in their laws with regards to equal treatment in their adoption laws.


The arc of history has been in the direction of fairness and equality but not without the hard work done by all who have allowed this day to arrive.

It therefore is my hope that just as transsexual and transgender people supported the extension of freedom and equality to Gays, Lesbians, and Bisexuals so that they could serve their country, marry and be protected from blatant discrimination based on who they love, that the same Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals support those of us who are still fighting for different freedoms and protection from discrimination based on who we are.

Today is a great day. But there's more work to be done so that ALL Americans are treated the same way under the law.

If some of us are not fully free, then none of us are truly free.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
Congratulations and Thankyou to the folk involved with this.

Today the USA has done something truly enlightened and given equality to all of it's citizens on this matter.


But it is not about equality after all now gay-marriage is a protected constitutional right that no one can oppose. While hetero-marriage can be opposed by anyone and everyone because it is not protected under the constitution and never was.

The strawman was that hetero-marriage was a protected constitutional right. However that was never so.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:05 PM
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Oh man, watching the conservatives/Christians getting worked up into a lather is one of my favorite things in life. That and Dr. Pepper. I think I'm going to have a Dr. Pepper while I go read some angry conservative tweets.




posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Let me put it this way.

A Civil Equality Right should never have insultingly been put to a popular vote in the first place.

Therefore, it should never have been a State Right vs anything.

Especially when the argument is based on religious belief.
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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Xaphan



Even as one of those mean ol' conservatives, that was funny.

I think you'd find, that many conservatives have little to no issue with this decision. This one certainly doesn't.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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This is a victory over bigotry and another advancement in giving people the freedom to make their own decisions. Mr & Mr or Mrs & Mrs shouldn't be any stranger than Mr & Mrs. 'What difference does it make'.

I look forward to the day our science advances so we can create designer children, grown outside the body and/or custom tailor our body to add things like wings, feathers, claws, chlorophyll, gills and so forth. What a battle with fundies that will be.

Bat wings, horns, cloven hooves and tail might be fun just to mess with fundies.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Xaphan

Fox News' facebook page.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
But it is not about equality after all now gay-marriage is a protected constitutional right that no one can oppose. While hetero-marriage can be opposed by anyone and everyone because it is not protected under the constitution and never was.

The strawman was that hetero-marriage was a protected constitutional right. However that was never so.


Opposed how??? How can someone oppose a hetero-marriage exactly?? Can you give an example??? Has it ever happened and in what way??



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Wrong... there's just marriage now, whatever laws would affect marriage, would affect all marriages equally.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: xuenchen

So gay marriage is now legal in this country . I thought homosexuals were offensive to radical Islam ? Let me get this straight I'm just trying to keep up .

Exercising your rights to draw a picture of Mohammed is called bad, baiting and offensive ?

But a minority exercising their right to gay marriage even though offensive to Islam. Is good ?


I really don't understand the rationality of protesters sometimes ? To me it appears the deck is stacked .


Yep you are right.

I have "heard" that the LGBT are going to start attacking churches to either let them marry in the church or shut the church down. That is only Christian churches. themattwalshblog.com...
eaglerising.com...

I hope they also attack Mosques and try and force them to allow gay weddings, but they won't.

I see the writing on the wall.

I personally feel gays should be allowed to marry,

and it should have been left to the states

to decide state by state as they eventually would have
,

but the national ruling will lead to a slippery slope.

Mark my words, within 10 years polygamy will be legal
to appease the Islamists,
and there will be no legal ground for states to refuse
to allow polygamy or polyandry or
marriage between a person and their animal.
It will all be quite legal and
people will be excoriated if they oppose these forms of marriage
as bigots and extremists.

I read today that some local and state governments
may get out of the marriage business altogether,
and stop issuing marriage licenses for anyone and everyone,
since there is no law compelling them to issue marriage licenses.

www.clarionledger.com...

The federal government has no authority to issue marriage licenses.

That will lead to a loss of "marital" rights for everyone
(inheritance, property, hospital, etc.)

Thanks to the Supreme Court overturning thousands of years
of the common definition of marriage, and defining it
by what popular culture says it should be, therefore,
encouraging states to stop issuing marriage licenses
since the states can no longer define what or who is valid
to issue a marriage license to,

thereby totally destroying the institution of marriage for everyone.

I am predicting that within 10 years either:

Some states or localities will choose to stop
issuing marriage licenses
and there will be no more legal marriage for anyone,
all marriages will be private commitments
that are not legally binding (ie without rights for either party)

Some states or localities will begin to issue marriage licenses
for polygamists, polyandry,
and any and all form of "marriage"
that a person wishes in order not to discriminate or hurt anyone's feelings.

OR both may happen.

Also during the next 10 years the socialist progressive left
will do it's best to completely and utterly destroy Christianity.

Leaving Islam to flourish.

And the US will become like France,
with businesses having male only and female only
shopping days to accommodate
Islam, and churches will become mosques,
and broad areas of the US will be run by Shariah law
as the LGBT and radical progressive socialist left
focuses on destroying Christianity.


I don't care what names any of you call me,
this is my opinion, and nothing that any of you say will change my mind.

Also, if you want to just send an insult my way,
remember a post that is only an insult is the sign of a small mind.

Once again, I AM NOT opposed to gay marriage, I am opposed to
a ruling that throws out thousands of years of a common definition,
and now leaves defining all of US culture to whatever is popular
in the media or pop culture at any given time.


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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You're wrong, again. The Supreme Court ruled under the 14th Amendment that marriage is a fundamental right that can not be infringed upon. Loving v. Virginia.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

That post was awfully confusing to me sorry .



I personally feel gays should be allowed to marry,


If you read the thread further you would also see this is my position too.


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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen There is a video where 20 strangers kiss, though they separate the heterosexual from the homosexual couples. There is a hugging video where they do not separate. This is a video with brief hugs and or kisses where they do not separate. It is nice.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn

But it is not about equality after all now gay-marriage is a protected constitutional right that no one can oppose. While hetero-marriage can be opposed by anyone and everyone because it is not protected under the constitution and never was.

The strawman was that hetero-marriage was a protected constitutional right. However that was never so.


If that is your best argument, then we're all laughing at you.

Don't be so sore about it my friend. Gay people aren't going to stop straights from getting married. My three brothers are straight and married, and I'm truly happy that they were blessed with finding wives that have enriched their lives.

Me on the other hand, well where I live I still don't have this opportunity and still have to live like a second class citizen because of thinking like yours.
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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:41 PM
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How is name change options affected?

Still up to the State laws?

Or do all 50 States have the same options?



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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Finally, now can we move on.
I am happy that any one who wants tax credits/ excemptions or any other benifit can achieve them.
That is what this is about, right?
Congratulation. Go, what ever.
WIS



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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