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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Liquesence
Hate is already out of control. Look at how we treat our prisoners and the mentally ill and homeless, look at the police vs citizens dynamic
originally posted by: notmyrealname
I wish that I was there so I could organize an all white group of logical people to help re-build the church -or- find some white people to donate a church or something to put this type of racial hype down where it belongs.
Heck, I don't even agree with religion and I would help on this initiative just to stick it to the inflammatory elements trying (and succeeding in race baiting). We all know there are some people that are racist in society (all parts of the world, mind you). There are also people that believe in Unicorns as well as pixie dust. There are also people that are just plain stupid in every society so let's focus on the macro which is that the vast majority of people do not care about race in this country and the vast majority will suffer if we let the baiter's win.
“We have been warning that 2014 is the beginning of a new cycle that will see a highly unusual convergence between our domestic (civil unrest & revolution) and international war model – for the first time since…the US and French Revolutions and the fall of monarchy.”
The civil unrest will develop first outside the USA and turn up more aggressively in the USA after 2015. Nonetheless, it still begins in 2014 for the USA as well.
“All governments had better open their eyes for we are on the brink of a major convergence between both the Cycle of Civil Unrest, Civil War & Revolution and International War.”
Its people that perverted and twisted it into a new meaning.
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Macenroe82
Its people? Who perverted it? Whites by flying it with intent to intimidate or blacks by it simply being flown when it represented a time when they were oppressed?
Regardless of what people have perverted it into and what was intended, the fact remains it WAS the battle flag of the confederacy, the confederacy DID have slaves, and that *one* of the points of the confederacy was the right to keep and own slaves, the majority of whom were black.
And *that's* what it represents to a lot of southern blacks.
So, it's not necessarily a "new" meaning, but it's *A* meaning with which a segment of the population strongly disagrees.
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: SlapMonkey
The flag represents, in the 1960's, the protest against the Civil Rights movement - that is it's most recent history related to racism and the institutionalization of racism in American Politics.
The history of slavery and racism casts a very long shadow in America - and the shadow is still there.
I will stop here as I don't want to derail the thread...
originally posted by: Liquesence
It was only a matter of time before....
CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Investigators with the Charlotte Fire Department say a fire at a predominantly black church is a case of arson.
The church's congregation is predominantly black, and there are about 100 members. Investigators are not sure if the fire was racially motivated.
They don't know if it's racially motivated, but I wonder: what are the odds?
It seems suspect that A) it's in the south, B) it's a black church, C) it comes on the heels of the Charleston massacre and the flag debate/uproar, so I would say it probably IS racially motivated.
Hopefully these things won't continue to happen, and that the hate won't get out of control.
originally posted by: maybee
This sucks. Why in the world burn down a church? But I feel there will be enough good people in Charlotte that will help the church members rebuild and to continue services in a temporary place until they have their building back. That is my prayer anyways.