Supreme Court rules in favor of Obamacare in King v. Burwell

I'll admit that I actually believed that the Supreme Court would do the right thing here, regardless of how unpopular that would have been...... boy was I made a fool.

It's frightening to know that the highest court in our nation, a court supposedly made up of people with integrity, can be bought so easily by the highest briber. (Yes, I am saying I believe this decision was bought and paid for by insurance companies)

It might seem an afterthought
Yes, it hurts to know you're bought
It's your decision, It's your decision.

&

No one plans to take the path
That brings you lower
And here you stand before us all
And say it's over, it's over

- Alice in Chains "Your Decision" written by Jerry Cantrell

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: jimmyx
so, everyone of you are pissed that low paid people get affordable coverage?....yeah, the horror!

Nope.

I'm just pissed that I am forced to pay for it.

how much you paying, beez?

a reply to: Profusion

Thanks for the heads-up Pro...bumped early. Bumped often.
Almost like somebody explaining an insane voting machine.

This is what happens when you pack a Supreme Court with
well-known, self avowed communists. I expected no less from
them, and the money like the Spice must flow.

From us unto them. And when we run out of money, I've
invested quite a bit of my retirement pension for the last
year and a half in print dresses-- so we can Python us some
Marge Thatcher vignettes over Medicare and our checking
accounts getting bailed into the canoe full of cannonball holes.

EDIT: Communism at the bottom, fascism at the top
and we get crushed in the middle until we're all gone.
It's the best of both worlds, all rolled up into a Danish latex
monster we all get to bend over for.
The second sitting chairman of the John Birch Society was splat on.
It's also why he had to die, too--- he was speaking the ugliest truth.

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to
create a one-world government combining super-
capitalism and Communism under the same tent,
all under their control....
Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced
there is such a plot, international in scope,
generations old in planning, and incredibly evil
in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976
in the well of the House

With the assumed definition of supercapitalism translating
to simply fascism, Korean Airlines lost a whole bird and
almost 180 people on board. END EDIT, Larry and us too

Note to self: must....check....signature for relevance to this one.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: jimmyx
so, everyone of you are pissed that low paid people get affordable coverage?....yeah, the horror!

Nope.

I'm just pissed that I am forced to pay for it.

how much you paying, beez?

Too much.

originally posted by: Profusion

The Supreme Court upheld Obamacare's insurance subsidies as legal in a 6-3 ruling.

The decision means that the Affordable Care Act stands unchanged and that the government can continue subsidizing coverage for millions of Americans.

www.vox.com...

Link to the opinion in Burwell:

www.supremecourt.gov...

I think there is a silver lining to this for the GOP. If the GOP wins the next presidential election, a Republican presidential administration could decide to enforce the law as its written and cancel the subsidies in states without state exchanges. And because of this decision by the Supreme Court, no one could do anything about it without passing new legislation.

If the subsidies in those states end so does the employer mandate and the individual mandate for many as I wrote about in another thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The GOP does not have the testicular fortitude to oppose Obamacare now.

You would be better off placing your bets on how long it takes the entire federal system of handouts to finally go bankrupt and the checks to start bouncing.

a reply to: jimmyx

Nope. Good for them.

I'm pissed that the insurance for my solidly middle-class self nearly doubled to pay for it. From monthly payments to copays to prescriptions, all of it is nearly double.

Affordable my ass.

Prediction; We'll see a call to raise taxes in order to support the exchanges that are bleeding out.

I hate to tell them this, but...
wasn't the original intent that the state have the exchanges and that there'd be a subsidy for those who couldn't afford the coverage with the state paying for a portion of the cost or something like that , but then the supreme court stepped in and said that it wasn't constitutional for the federal gov't to force the states to have these exchanges?
but oh....we had to pass it before we can see what's in it!!!
ya and now we got a mish mash bill that still doesn't cover everyone, nor provide affordable care.

how many more lawsuits are there for the court to rule on from this bill?

a reply to: jimmyx

Who the hell is getting affordable coverage?

I can't afford healthcare, so I'm fined/taxed because of it. Makes sense right?

and now they reap the profits!!!

data.cnbc.com...:topnews:1


it's not communism, it's facism!!

CNN is showing a large group of young adults holding signs outside the Supreme Court that say 'ACA is here to stay' and cheering. Wanna bet they're all paid to do this? And I find it hilarious there aren't any older adults out there.

These kids are probably all on their parents' health insurance.

originally posted by: texasgirl

CNN is showing a large group of young adults holding signs outside the Supreme Court that say 'ACA is here to stay' and cheering. Wanna bet they're all paid to do this? And I find it hilarious there aren't any older adults out there.

Older folks won't be there.

They are at work earning money to pay for the young adults healthcare.

a reply to: beezzer

Yeah, I meant to add that

I'm sure all those poor people will get dollars worth on their $10K deductible plans... So glad I was forced to help with that.

a reply to: Profusion

So your big plan for Republicans is to have them win the Presidential election...and then effectively strip health insurance from thousands or millions of people and leave them with no other way to get health insurance.

Sounds just like something Republicans would think is a winning strategy, even though it is batcrap crazy and will never work.

originally posted by: texasgirl
CNN is showing a large group of young adults holding signs outside the Supreme Court that say 'ACA is here to stay' and cheering. Wanna bet they're all paid to do this? And I find it hilarious there aren't any older adults out there.

These kids are probably all on their parents' health insurance.

I know no employed adult who's also struggling (almost all of them)
and cheering about this. I'm also getting a feedback from them of an
average 40% increase in premiums. Probably "what you see is who they
hired", I'm inclined to agree.
Maybe the only job some of them had all year. sigh. Propagrandiosity....

They chopped back MY factory's personnel to make the head count cap.
"You like your job, you can keep your job."
Yeah, whatever. Happy Thanksgiving. I had a chicken and cheese casserole.

originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: Profusion

So your big plan for Republicans is to have them win the Presidential election...and then effectively strip health insurance from thousands or millions of people and leave them with no other way to get health insurance.

Sounds just like something Republicans would think is a winning strategy, even though it is batcrap crazy and will never work.

So you are against any politician(s) enacting a law that would result in millions losing their health insurance?

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
I've said it before...I'll say it AGAIN. The only way to stop the downward slide into full Communism is to REVOLT. How many of you are out there picketing, protesting, and gathering support from the rest of the dwindling middle class to fight this raping of your pocketbook and freedoms???

Anyone???

Okay then, if no one wants to put themselves on the line...then sit back and wait for your number in the bread line.

Obamacare is just the start.

An internet revolutionary...I love you guys.

So...how about you take your own advice and be the first person to REVOLT??? Or are you just going to bad mouth everyone else who doesn't do what you are telling them to do?

Now...let's hear all your excuses why you can't do what you are calling others out for not doing.

a reply to: kruphix

I think health insurance should be banned. All it does is drive up costs. A doctor won't charge $150 to check for a sore throat if he knows no one can pay it.

originally posted by: 200Plus
a reply to: Profusion

The bigger win is that - laws as written now mean nothing.

As witnessed today it is "intent" and the word of law can mean whatever those in power want it to mean at the time.

Precedent continues to be set, time and again. It will come back to bite us all in the ass.

No one should look at this and say "I didn't realize".

This isn't anything new.

And gun loving conservatives shouldn't complain about this, or else you will only have your precious guns when you are enlisted in the National Guard, which is the regulated militia.

Intent isn't anything new...2nd amendment supporters have used the "intent" defense forever.